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47270. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:35:45 AM If somehow, he was convicted in the senate and removed before the election, could he still run again in 2020? 47271. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 1:36:26 AM hmm, looks like people on Politico and elsewhere are saying that he could run again 47272. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:19:03 PM There's nothing in the Constitution that says he couldn't. I'm shifting how I think about all of this. I think it's very possible the Senate could remove him and if they do he won't be back. If McConnell had to choose between keeping a senate majority and keeping Trump he would keep the Senate majority in a heartbeat.
47273. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:20:27 PM I also think McConnell's looking at the prospect of trying to control that idiot for 4 more years. I don't think he really relishes the idea. 47274. arkymalarky - 9/27/2019 3:21:34 PM I also wouldn't be surprised if he resigns with a sour grapes rant. I think if he weren't scared of going to jail that's what his preference would be. Because a lot of shit that he has been successfully keeping in the dark up to now is going to be exposed. 47275. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 9:29:15 PM Can you imagine all those people who were on that call and all their assistants and other staff lawyering up and having to deal with Trumps mood? All of them just waiting to be called to testify. Trying to figure out how to parse their testimony to put them in the least jeopardy. The White House will be trying to coach them and threatening them. They will be in a vice between perjury and Trump's vindictiveness. 47276. winstonsmith - 9/27/2019 9:32:39 PM I suppose The White house will try to assert executive privilege for most of them in the hopes of keeping the from testifying. 47277. arkymalarky - 9/28/2019 12:06:44 AM You're so right. Lawyers are going to make a lot of money in the DC area. I'm watching Barr, and I'm watching comments of people who knew Trump in New York. Their speculations on how different this is and how Trump is going to respond are very interesting. He's always been able to walk away from failure in the past and just pretend it didn't happen. He doesn't have that option now. 47278. arkymalarky - 9/28/2019 12:07:53 AM One thing they all know, he will do anything to anyone to save his own hide. 47279. wabbit - 10/3/2019 1:14:23 AM Do you think he'd throw Ivanka under the bus? I've long thought she was the only one who was safe.
McConnell will save his own ass first and foremost, and if that means removing Trump, why not? He gets Pence, who won't be as difficult, and sadly, "appears" to be reasonable, even though he'd install whatever the Christian version of Sharia law is in a flash.
How can you trust a man who can't trust himself? As crazy as Trump's marriages may seem, imho Pence's is way stranger. But that's just me. 47280. wabbit - 10/3/2019 1:16:32 AM Having said that, perhaps it's time for Uncle Joe to move on. He isn't glib enough to overcome the optics.
Is there some rule that says money raised for election campaigning is deposited into the DNC coffers if you withdraw? Probably not. 47281. arkymalarky - 11/16/2019 2:00:16 AM what. a. day.
Insanity in the Arkansas senate race, so glad the Democrats are doing so well nationally. Cotton's opponent Suddenly dropped out stating family emergency health reasons, which apparently is a synonym for I got caught in the middle of a big fraud. And he did that 2 hours after the filing deadline so the Democrats don't have an opponent to Tom Cotton this time. The Democratic party in Arkansas is unbelievably awful. I tried to participate in it and I just gave up. I'm sorry when the average age local members is 80 and the average number who attend is under 10, it's just not worth the trouble. They don't even pretend to try. Disgusting. I wish the DNC would just cut them off. They have dinners and raise money and spend it on themselves and that's pretty much it. 47282. tonedef - 11/16/2019 5:47:04 PM Much belated 20th birthday greetings to The Mote and Moties everywhere. I'm sorry I don't stop by more often. I thought of you all yesterday when I received an invitation to join WT Social; it's structure reminded me of The Fray/The Mote. For a couple of years, The Fray was a big part of my on-line life, and my introduction to social media. Nice to see familiar names. 47283. arkymalarky - 11/16/2019 6:48:36 PM Hey Tonedef! Good to see you! Hope everything is well with you. 47284. winstonsmith - 12/19/2019 1:23:17 AM Wow, I'm checking in and listening to the impeachment hearing from time to time throughout the day on C-Span. Crazy, back and forth short speeches. Every Republican seems to want to get in a loyalty statement for Trump to view. 47285. arkymalarky - 12/19/2019 9:09:01 AM They're all in and there's nothing they can do about it now. Now it moves to the battle between Pelosi the mongoose and McConnell the cobra. 47286. arkymalarky - 12/25/2019 5:15:42 PM Merry Christmas Motebuds!!
Hope you all have a great holiday!
Trying to get my dad out here and hoping he feels up to it. Just got grandson video and Santa got him some Toy Story toys. Life is good. 47287. arkymalarky - 12/25/2019 5:16:11 PM And I could have sworn that was in the cafe. Oh well. 47288. arkymalarky - 3/4/2020 3:47:32 PM A bright spot for me in a tough few weeks is politics. Hope that stays the case.
Wabbit, what happened with Warren in MA? 47289. Ms. No - 3/4/2020 5:41:28 PM Sorry about California, folks. What can I say? Fruits and nuts fer sure.
At this point my hope is for a Biden/Warren ticket.
I'm tired of these "cult of personality" candidates. Sanders' policies are not Trump's, thank god, but he's still an ideologue, and his fan-base is no less abusive.
A couple of weeks ago I thought a friend of mine was going to jump over the table and fight me because I supported Clinton in '16 and am still "not a big fan" of Sanders. That's all I said --- "I'm not a big fan of Sanders. I'm really pulling for Warren." and he went off into a tirade about how Bernie would have beat Trump if he hadn't been cheated by the DNC and how if Clinton had been elected we'd be at war right now (yeah, we ARE at war right now and have been for nearly 20 years) and on and on and on.
And this is a guy who is eminently reasonable 99% of the time about everything else.
I find that most of my Sanders supporting friends are more vehement about their support ---- to the tune of there's something seriously wrong with you if you don't also support Bernie. You can't be a real progressive or can't really care about injustice and corruption if you don't support Bernie. Or maybe you're just not a decent human being because you don't want to join the Bernie Bros.
I swear, his supporters have done as much to turn me off of Bernie as anything he has done himself. Sure, now he's admonishing some of the more egregious agitators, but you have to look hard at someone who draws so many of that kind of supporter.
Obviously not everyone who supports Bernie is like this, but he just seems to have more than his share of them in his base.
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