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1531. jexster - 4/18/2002 12:53:16 AM I am serving notice on everyone, that each and every time that Caligula moves an on topic post of mine from her so-called discussion thread, I will be heard from.
And she will not like what she hears.
Either a thread is open to all on a fair and equal basis or it should be open to none.
She removed the following from her "Bitch Fighting Thread" yesterday
What is Behind Bush's War Drive?
Will be the topic of a discussion at SFSU today
Unfortunately I will be in Housing Class doing battle with a representative of The Mother of the Axis of Evil.
However, thanks to Wiz's timely and excellent link of the Immanuel Wallerstein article from the LAT, I will be doing my part in the War Against Global Geopolitical Incompetence.
Thanks Wiz!
She started this.
I will end it.
1532. wabbit - 4/18/2002 12:56:40 AM No, you won't. You'll either learn to differentiate between an on-topic post and spam, or you will be getting longer and longer suspensions. The last ten posts of yours in the Fighting Global Terrorism thread are nothing but spam. You have the next few days off. See you Monday. 1533. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 2:47:59 AM RD,
Sounds good to me. Wabbit mentioned in Suggestions that she'd like to leave Policies up for another day and then re-anchor tomorrow. 1534. concerned - 4/18/2002 4:45:43 AM Looks like the Strangler missed, but Wabbit didn't.
Oooooooooh!:) 1535. concerned - 4/18/2002 4:46:49 AM Btw, how's the current registration situation accommodation operation, if any, coming along? 1536. wonkers2 - 4/18/2002 4:50:32 AM Let the record show that wonkers and the cap'n don't approve of Captain Queeg/Bligh tactics. Lighten up girls! 1537. concerned - 4/18/2002 4:53:21 AM Got strawberries? 1538. wonkers2 - 4/18/2002 4:55:21 AM Somebody, quick throw the Queeg's palm tree overboard! 1539. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:08:58 AM Concerned,
I'm not sure what registration problem you're referring to. Automatic registration has been back up and running for nearly two months now.
Was there something else?
1540. concerned - 4/18/2002 5:11:43 AM Re. 1539 -
Thanks for the information. Are we keeping up hyperlinks from other sites? 1541. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:31:46 AM Wonk,
Lighten up how? I mean, do thread hosts set the tone of their threads or not? Jexter had ample opportunity to comply. He had 31 other threads in which to post if he didn't wish to conform to the tone of that particular thread.
Clearly Jexter wished to cause havoc in that thread. Clearly he wished to needlessly antagonize and abuse the hosts of that thread. Clearly he wished to ignore the RoE.
Clearly CalGal and Ducky did not attempt to prevent him from posting as is evidenced by the fact that there are more posts by Jexter in that thread than by anyone other than CalGal. That's not even remotely close to banning him from a thread.
1542. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:35:56 AM Concerned,
Are we keeping up hyperlinks from other sites?
We are registered with several search engines but I don't know what was done about reciprocal links. I very much doubt that Salon would have agreed to such a thing or any other forum that's making money off subscriptions somewhere, but, honestly, I don't know for sure as I wasn't involved in that. 1543. concerned - 4/18/2002 5:36:36 AM I could offer my opinion re Jexster's relationship with Mote administrators and thread hosts here, but I'm almost sure some would misconstrue it, so I won't. That is, unless somebody asks me pretty please with a cherry on top. 1544. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:40:11 AM Why would anyone want to do that? 1545. concerned - 4/18/2002 5:40:30 AM re. 1542 -
It's probably clear by now that I haven't paid much attention to these things, but I'm now curious as to whether the Mote has created catchy little banners for other sites to use to attach their links to the Mote to. If the Mote hasn't in the past, I could imagine that reducing the willingness of other sites to link to the Mote, in some cases. 1546. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:47:56 AM Concerned,
Most places will link to you if you will also link to them. It's the "also link to them" part that I think people originally balked at. We didn't want to become a site that subsisted on advertising other sites. We currently have no ads whatsoever. It means we don't make any money, but we didn't get into this to make money. It means that we aren't getting as wide an exposure as we could, but there are pros and cons both to wide exposure as any Playboy model will tell you.
I don't think the idea's been revisited for quite awhile, though. We've had more than 20 people register with theMote in the last two months. Several of them are posting. Not a lot yet, but this is a tough crowd to infiltrate and it takes folks a little time to warm up to it. 1547. concerned - 4/18/2002 5:50:33 AM I even have a suggestion for a Mote link banner layout. It could have a nacreous red orb similar to the one on the Mote home page continuously rolling in a drawing of an idealized eye while the names of such 'prominent' Motiers such as PE, CalGal and jexster grow from a solid pinpint at the center becoming larger and more transparent as they fill the screen in succession. 1548. concerned - 4/18/2002 5:52:19 AM Re. 1546 -
Please, whatever you do regarding ads, no popups! Have mercy! 1549. Ms. No - 4/18/2002 5:55:58 AM Concerned,
That's just my point, nobody wanted any ads at all on our site. I'm fine not having our link on other sites if having them means putting up other people's ads. I don't think we're so hard up for posters that we need to do that.
I like your idea for a logo, though. I recently went back and looked at Pike's front page logo submission and laughed my ass off----in a good way. It was great the way he pulled quotes from all over theMote. Very funny. 1550. betty - 4/18/2002 11:28:32 PM since my Message # 1523 was ignored and as the ROE as linked on the butter bar of this thread make no mention of Spam I would like to formally object to Jexster's suspension.
The slew of posts at the very end were awful, out of line and gross, though i've seen MUCH worse around here. However, Jex's more abusive posts appeared predictably. Everytime Cal moved an on-topic post, Jex would attempt to make an issue of it(see Message # 1531). while Cal is entitled to run her thread however she damn well likes, i think that her stated goal, of "avoiding spam" was less than genuine. Further, Wabbit's Message # 1532 states You'll either learn to differentiate between an on-topic post and spam, or..., I argue that Jexster has little difficulty differentiating between the two...rather Cal has this problem as demonstrated by her selection of posts to move from her thread to The Inferno (12098, 12100, 12150, 12162 and 12149)
Given that there is no stated "spam rule" (and that Spam has not been formally defined),
the justification of "Spam" as the reason for suspension (as stated by Wabbit in above linked post) is invalid, though I do think his final posts where abusive.
However, suspension for abusive posts would open up suspension for Cal and her numerous personal and unsubstatiated attacks on several members of the community. I agree with Jexster, and many other here that enforcement has been selective.
Thus ends my formal complaint.
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