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10223. Wombat - 3/9/2012 5:18:50 PM Not to render SOC's factoid meaningless or anything, but the US government ran a deficit from 1970 to 1997, according to US government figures collected on usgovernmentspending.com.
10224. judithathome - 4/4/2012 4:19:53 PM If you see any newsflim of those tornados from my area yesterday, those rectangular things flying around like the Wicked Witch of the West are really semi truck trailer rigs.... they look like Tonka toys but they are 53 feet long and weigh about 5 tons empty. (My husband's business uses them so he knows)
10225. OhioSTOPAS - 4/4/2012 5:42:29 PM Those pictures of flying trailers were amazing. I've never seen anything like it. 10226. concerned - 4/10/2012 10:06:13 PM Police have arrested the woman who was stalking Alec Baldwin. It turned out to be Tina Faye. Jes' Funnin! 10227. OhioSTOPAS - 4/11/2012 2:07:26 PM As a lawyer (although admittedly just a corporate desk lawyer), I am amazed and appalled by the conduct of George Zimmerman's now ex-attorneys. If you terminate a relationship with a client, you need to make necessary notifications that you no longer speak for the ex-client, and that you will no longer receive or relay communications or notices intended for the ex-client. Period.
These guys are going on talk shows (they booked themselves on "Today" this morning), divulging attorney client communications and other non-public information about the client: "We told him not to talk to the prosecutor's office, but he did." "He has left Florida." "He doesn't return our phone calls." (Really?)
I don't understand what the lawyers' game is. Are they trying to strong-arm Zimmerman into paying them for their "work" so far? Do they think they are in some kind of legal jeopardy that can be reduced or dispelled by publicly turning on their ex-client? Are they just shameless publicity hounds who want to keep their faces on TV for a few more days? I am as much baffled as anything else. 10228. vonKreedon - 4/11/2012 3:25:19 PM Yeah their conduct has been shocking. I couldn't believe my ears when they suggested that their former client has PTSD or some other mental health issues. 10229. judithathome - 4/11/2012 6:57:19 PM I don't understand what the lawyers' game is.
They want publicity. In that regard, they have been successful. 10230. Wombat - 4/11/2012 6:59:09 PM Perhaps they have also decided that Zimmerman is a loser in every conceivable way. Anyway, his dad will bail him out. 10231. OhioSTOPAS - 4/11/2012 8:07:44 PM It's being reported that the special prosecutor is going to charge Zimmerman with a crime. No details about what the charge will be, or when this action will take place. 10232. judithathome - 4/11/2012 11:25:47 PM Second degree murder...she just announced it.
This came in from CNN:
George Zimmerman is in Florida and has surrendered to the state Department of Law Enforcement, his lawyer told CNN legal analyst Mark NeJame.
10233. concerned - 4/11/2012 11:31:06 PM What's the latino word for 'ham sandwich'? 'bocadillo de jamón'?
Zimmerman ought to bring a hoodie to trial in Martin's size. 'If the hoodie don't fit, you must acquit'. 10234. judithathome - 4/12/2012 5:06:42 PM You certainly have a cavalier attitude toward a young man's death. 10235. Jenerator - 4/12/2012 9:25:48 PM I don't know enough about the Zimmerman/Martin incident to fully establish my beliefs on what happened. There has been too much editorializing in the media. I want the facts.
I wish Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would butt out. I can't stand them. 10236. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 9:29:21 PM I do wish that people would resist reflexive public posturing rather than being curious and insisting on getting their curiosty answered. At the outset it was pretty apparent that the police/DA's office simply dropping the matter was unexceptable. But what actually happened was not at all clear, which is why not having an investigation is inexcusable. 10237. Jenerator - 4/12/2012 9:31:37 PM Who's claiming there has been no investigation? 10238. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 9:40:50 PM At the outset, before the hullabaloo, the case wasn't even being opened. My understanding is that there was no forensic team involvement and no canvassing of the neighborhood. Because of this , at least in part, we have little and conflicting understanding of what happened that resulted in Martin being killed by Zimmerman. 10239. OhioSTOPAS - 4/12/2012 9:53:01 PM In an affidavit filed today, the prosecution specifically alleges that the shouting/screaming heard on the 911 call just before the fatal shot was Trayvon Martin's voice. The only supporting evidence cited is that Trayvon's mother identified the voice, which is probative but not conclusive.
I expect that an expert or experts will try to more conclusively identify what can be heard on the call, but if it is Trayvon's pleading voice I wouldn't think Zimmerman could successfully claim self-defense or "stand your ground."
As Jen says, we need the facts to be established. And as VK says, that process is finally under way. 10240. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:27:56 PM An unarmed boy was followed without reason and shot. An arrest and investigation should have been automatic. 10241. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 10:38:02 PM Arky - We don't know if he was shot without reason, we also don't know who initiated the physical confrontation. There should have been a homicide investigation because one person was killed by another, the investigation might or might not have resulted in charges. 10242. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:50:01 PM I said he was followed without reason. Unless being a black teen boy is a rrason.
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