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10228. vonKreedon - 4/11/2012 3:25:19 PM Yeah their conduct has been shocking. I couldn't believe my ears when they suggested that their former client has PTSD or some other mental health issues. 10229. judithathome - 4/11/2012 6:57:19 PM I don't understand what the lawyers' game is.
They want publicity. In that regard, they have been successful. 10230. Wombat - 4/11/2012 6:59:09 PM Perhaps they have also decided that Zimmerman is a loser in every conceivable way. Anyway, his dad will bail him out. 10231. OhioSTOPAS - 4/11/2012 8:07:44 PM It's being reported that the special prosecutor is going to charge Zimmerman with a crime. No details about what the charge will be, or when this action will take place. 10232. judithathome - 4/11/2012 11:25:47 PM Second degree murder...she just announced it.
This came in from CNN:
George Zimmerman is in Florida and has surrendered to the state Department of Law Enforcement, his lawyer told CNN legal analyst Mark NeJame.
10233. concerned - 4/11/2012 11:31:06 PM What's the latino word for 'ham sandwich'? 'bocadillo de jamón'?
Zimmerman ought to bring a hoodie to trial in Martin's size. 'If the hoodie don't fit, you must acquit'. 10234. judithathome - 4/12/2012 5:06:42 PM You certainly have a cavalier attitude toward a young man's death. 10235. Jenerator - 4/12/2012 9:25:48 PM I don't know enough about the Zimmerman/Martin incident to fully establish my beliefs on what happened. There has been too much editorializing in the media. I want the facts.
I wish Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would butt out. I can't stand them. 10236. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 9:29:21 PM I do wish that people would resist reflexive public posturing rather than being curious and insisting on getting their curiosty answered. At the outset it was pretty apparent that the police/DA's office simply dropping the matter was unexceptable. But what actually happened was not at all clear, which is why not having an investigation is inexcusable. 10237. Jenerator - 4/12/2012 9:31:37 PM Who's claiming there has been no investigation? 10238. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 9:40:50 PM At the outset, before the hullabaloo, the case wasn't even being opened. My understanding is that there was no forensic team involvement and no canvassing of the neighborhood. Because of this , at least in part, we have little and conflicting understanding of what happened that resulted in Martin being killed by Zimmerman. 10239. OhioSTOPAS - 4/12/2012 9:53:01 PM In an affidavit filed today, the prosecution specifically alleges that the shouting/screaming heard on the 911 call just before the fatal shot was Trayvon Martin's voice. The only supporting evidence cited is that Trayvon's mother identified the voice, which is probative but not conclusive.
I expect that an expert or experts will try to more conclusively identify what can be heard on the call, but if it is Trayvon's pleading voice I wouldn't think Zimmerman could successfully claim self-defense or "stand your ground."
As Jen says, we need the facts to be established. And as VK says, that process is finally under way. 10240. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:27:56 PM An unarmed boy was followed without reason and shot. An arrest and investigation should have been automatic. 10241. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 10:38:02 PM Arky - We don't know if he was shot without reason, we also don't know who initiated the physical confrontation. There should have been a homicide investigation because one person was killed by another, the investigation might or might not have resulted in charges. 10242. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:50:01 PM I said he was followed without reason. Unless being a black teen boy is a rrason. 10243. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:52:15 PM And I said an arrest, not charges. 10244. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 11:24:23 PM Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction. 10245. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 11:42:01 PM And love or hate Sharpton, nothing was happening until he got on it. That's what activism is all about. 10246. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 11:43:01 PM That was in resppnse to Jen's post. 10247. Wombat - 4/13/2012 1:07:10 AM Arky,
Sharpton and Jackson jumped on the bandwagon. The protests had already begun and were taking root.
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