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11612. Ulgine Barrows - 10/9/2004 7:18:00 PM Time for lunch! I think I'll have a tomato salad with basil and mozzarella. 11613. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 1:04:44 PM Hello, everyone. How was your weekend? 11614. neato - 10/11/2004 1:21:41 PM Mine was good. I worked both days- lovely overtime rates at the dear old library. 11615. alistairconnor - 10/11/2004 1:22:12 PM Your score is 8 on a scale of 1 to 10. John Kerry is your man. He may not be perfect in your eyes, but next to the smirking idiot who occupies the White House right now, he looks like Abraham Lincoln.
I probably lost points for answering that Kerry "shares the values of people like the French". Which I happen to think is true, to some extent. And a good thing.
11616. alistairconnor - 10/11/2004 1:23:09 PM Time for lunch! I think I'll have a lousy sandwich from the machine.
And a nice apple from my tree. 11617. neato - 10/11/2004 1:34:26 PM It was Aussie elections on Saturday. I didn't vote (in Australia) (still vote in NZ) for the first time for 20 years. Suddenly disenfranchized, because of an error in 1984 - I enrolled then, voted in all elections, state and federal, until the electoral office realized that I was on the rolls by mistake. 11618. alistairconnor - 10/11/2004 1:54:42 PM ?? You don't have the right to vote in Oz? Why not? 11619. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 2:20:54 PM I would assume it's because she is not an Australian citizen.
11620. neato - 10/11/2004 2:22:26 PM I'm not an Australian citizen. I am a "permanent resident". (Although this is a vague term, and I have no documents to prove it - it is just something I tick on the immigration card each time I enter Australia).
I had been voting since I settled in Oz in 1984 until 2001. I believe that in 1984 there was a cut-off point for NZers who wanted to enroll to vote.(If I had enrolled in 1983 I would still be voting). 20 years later I changed my address for the third time, but this time "they" realized that I enrolled in the few months in 1984 when people enrolled who shouldn't have.
What I find hard to take is the fact that I have voted all these years. And been on a jury.
I suppose I should just bite that bullet and become an Australian citizen 11621. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 2:34:52 PM I waited ten years to become a citizen. When I decided to take the plunge, it was done in a jiffy. I think that for you it will be a cinch too.
11622. neato - 10/11/2004 2:44:56 PM Yeah. I suppose so.
11623. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 3:03:07 PM I couldn't bring myself to become a citizen when I could have. I did it finally because I had a son and his father thought that I should do it for his sake.
11624. neato - 10/11/2004 3:22:09 PM So you didn't do it because you loved America? 11625. alistairconnor - 10/11/2004 3:30:45 PM I also waited ten years before doing anything about it.
When I took the plunge, it was done in a jiffy... give or take three or four years.
I still haven't got my identity card. But I'm the proud owner of a French birth certificate. 11626. neato - 10/11/2004 3:33:19 PM Whose birth certificate?
Alistair,Mago - have you got dual citizenship? 11627. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 3:33:51 PM I felt then that I had the right to live here as a permanent citizen. Of course, I loved this country, otherwise I wouldn't have come here. 11628. PsychProf - 10/11/2004 5:21:45 PM
GOODBYE CRISTOPHER
11629. alistairconnor - 10/11/2004 5:27:09 PM Yes, Dual citizenship. Much the same motivation for me : I went to some trouble to validate the NZ citizenship of my daughters, then it occurred to me that it was odd that I shouldn't have the same citizenship as them.
My French birth certificate is a French attestation that I was born, not an attestation that I was born in France. Can't do anything without it.
11630. Magoseph - 10/11/2004 8:28:56 PM Neato, I don't have a French passport anymore and my sons were born here. 11631. SnowOwl - 10/11/2004 8:49:49 PM I'm the only person in my family who doesn't have mroe than one citizenship. All my kids have NZ and British citizenship, and the oldest has now added Swedish to his tally.
When I could have got British citizenship I didn't bother, but it slightly peeves me now, because it always takes me much longer to clear immigration when we travel to the UK or Europe than it does them.
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