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13439. wonkers2 - 1/20/2005 8:04:16 PM

Jen, just curious whether you agree or disagree with the NYT editorial I linked in the Religion thread. It decried the military's recent discharging of a number of badly needed Arabic translators because of their homosexuality.

13440. Jenerator - 1/20/2005 8:28:24 PM

I didn't read it. It was firewalled from work. I'm telling you, it's getting ridiculous here - EVERYTHING is filtered -- all pictures, key phrases, web based e-mail, and yahoo search.

Can you post it?

13441. wonkers2 - 1/20/2005 8:32:14 PM

The price of homophobia

13442. Jenerator - 1/20/2005 8:36:34 PM

Again, the link is firewalled, wonkers. Can you post the article? (post it in Religion).

13443. wonkers2 - 1/20/2005 8:38:52 PM

It's already posted (linked) in Religion. Excuse my ignorance, but I don't know how to post the entire editorial aside from linking it as I did. It's an editorial from today's nytimes. Feel free to educate me if you can.

13444. wonkers2 - 1/20/2005 8:40:02 PM

Both links work fine for me on my computer.???

13445. judithathome - 1/20/2005 8:47:16 PM

Jen's computer is at her school...they have a firewall up that doesn't allow her to link to anything with banned words or things of that sort in it. I'm sure it's been put on the computer system to prevent the students from stumbling on to porn sites but it unfortunately hampers what anyone can read while on-line there.

13446. judithathome - 1/20/2005 8:48:38 PM

(Linnea is doing a cut and paste of the article in Religion so Jen can read it.)

13447. Linnea - 1/20/2005 8:48:59 PM

I cut-and-pasted it into the religion thread.

13448. wonkers2 - 1/20/2005 8:51:13 PM

Tnx, Linnea.

W2

13449. Max Macks - 1/20/2005 9:27:13 PM

Clinton was one of the best presidents since
Teddy Roosevelt

and W. Bush is thought by many to not be a bad POTUS
but the worst in US history.

And that view from one who is neutral on]
the subject (LOL)

13450. Magoseph - 1/20/2005 9:44:38 PM

Hi, thoughtful, the following is from his site.
Oscar de la Renta, left his native Dominican Republic at 18 years of age to study painting at the Academy of San Fernando in Madrid. While living in Spain, he became interested in the world of design and began sketching for leading Spanish fashion houses, which soon led to an apprenticeship with Spain’s most renowned couturier, Cristóbal Balenciaga. Later, Oscar de la Renta left Spain to join Antonio Castillo as a couture assistant at the house of Lanvin in Paris. In 1963, Oscar de la Renta came to New York to design the couture collection for Elizabeth Arden. In 1965, Mr. de la Renta began his signature ready-to-wear label.

13451. thoughtful - 1/20/2005 10:12:52 PM

So that makes him a dominican/spanish/french/new yorker?

Either way he's from a blue state now!

Remember the checkers speech with Pat wearing a good republican cloth coat?

13452. thoughtful - 1/20/2005 10:31:01 PM

I've been looking for a pic of the inaugural where it's clear what bush is wearing, but can't find one...they're all head shots or she's behind the podium. I'll just have to wait til tonight when I can see it on the news. Dang.

13453. judithathome - 1/20/2005 10:40:21 PM

Well, someone threw a large piece of fruit at the limo so I guess it's good they weren't in a convertible. Shame to ruin Laura's white outfit.

In the luncheon shots, she was in the suit and you could notice a pin on her suit jacket. In the picture above, she doesn't have it on...it's under the coat. So, to Jen, my apologies if she wore a coat...I was only concerned about her health, honest! (At least she has on gloves now!)

13454. thoughtful - 1/20/2005 10:53:49 PM

check the news sites and you can see pics of the protesters...anti-war. Shades of the 60s...everything old is new again.

Heck they're even bringing back the colored appliances now. Remember harvest gold and avacado green???? I thought it was bad enough to see the young gals in hip hugger bell bottoms. What'll be next...sit ins? love ins? Let's hope we can avoid the national guard shooting unarmed students this go round!

13455. judithathome - 1/20/2005 11:10:53 PM

Well, I think they are doing that but in another country now.

13456. thoughtful - 1/20/2005 11:21:49 PM

so it would seem.

13457. Max Macks - 1/20/2005 11:27:50 PM

really someone thru a grapefuit or something
at the limo

was this on the TV ???

13458. judithathome - 1/20/2005 11:33:03 PM

No, not shown. But the motorcade sped up and later Wolf Blitzer explained that the cause of the speed-up was due to someone throwing "a large piece of fruit" at the President's limo. They also sped up when he went past the largest group of "sanctioned" protesters. Can't have him facing reality, can we?

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