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1400. Ms. No - 6/21/2001 7:55:39 AM

Perhaps you should rethink the tongue in cheek nature of the phrase "needlessly verbose".

One need not threaten bodily harm to be antagonistic as you well know.

If 90% of what you write is worth skipping then it's hardly surprising that I ignore you until you've sifted out the pertinent issues. Not unlike RosettaStone, your constant harping becomes a distant background buzz most often overlooked because of it's ceaselessness.

1401. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 9:16:16 PM

Is it my understanding that as host, while I cannot change the topic, I can change the title?

I have been toying with the internet title, but have not deviated from the theme of "exploring the internet".

If I am mistaken, I will pick something and stick to it... but my intention was only to drum up interest.

1402. iiibbb - 7/4/2001 9:20:15 PM

I know Ace changed title alot, but if I remember it was major deviations in topic that was the problem...

1403. arkymalarky - 7/4/2001 10:59:17 PM

Never concern yourself over rules based on anything Rose says.

1404. Ms. No - 7/5/2001 1:12:24 AM

iiibbb,

It depends on how much you'd like to change the topic. If the deviation is particularly great then it's better to retire the current thread and start a new one in most cases. If it's still going to be a links-based thread then I see no problem with just making a statement about the change, changing the profile and re-naming the thread.

I'm not a big fan of multiple re-names of a thread. Expecially not in the manner that occurred a few months ago with Ace and Francis or even the earlier case where Fielding and Dr. X were vying for alphabetical supremacy in the thread list. I completely understand that you may be "shopping" titles at the moment and need a bit of time to settle on one, but I think it's best if eventually there is a definite name for the thread.

1406. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 3:18:45 AM

shit. erase that because Charlie's name was given in body of copy. will redo.

1407. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 3:19:22 AM

From the Mote Annex, before they're deleted by PR-expert IJ:

Khanzab:

"As the person who gave Rosetta's real name --I'm no fan of his--I find it absolutely reprehensible that Charlie L*******(real name given) has used it to harass the right-wing loon this way.

But not surprising after having been further exposed to L****'s bland brand of idiocy.

Rosetta, you should take this scumbag's criminal actions seriously and report him. It's not funny."

RosettaStone:

"CharlieL is protected by mote moderator Ms. No, his friend. The fact that he can use information he got in Slate's fray three years ago to dig into telephone databases and repeatedly publish my full name, correct address and daughter's phone number for political reasons is of no concern to her.

When I bring it up here I'm warned that I will be banned from mote.

Cazart is right. Mote doesn't protect its members privacy."

1408. bubbaette - 7/5/2001 3:57:15 AM

It appears to me that Rosie Pot has been exposing another motier's name here.

1409. PsychProf - 7/5/2001 4:19:56 AM

Hahahaha...hoisted by his own petard.

1410. Ms. No - 7/5/2001 4:30:03 AM

RosettaStone,

This is not the place to discuss Table Talk's policies or infractions of their rules. It is for Mote Policies.

It is not the Policy of the Mote to police other internet forums. However we might feel about what takes place in those forums we have no authority over them. Were it even possible to police the entire Internet according to the rules we've established here, we have neither the time nor the resources to undertake such a monumental task.

Were CharlieL's actions in Table Talk deplorable? Yes they were. Should he be punished here for an infraction at another forum? Should you be? That is not our policy and you should be no less glad then he is for it.

1411. JudithAtHome - 7/5/2001 4:40:27 AM

What about Rose posting Charlies name here? I thought that wasn't allowed...something he learned in another forum being posted here? He called for it to be deleted so he knows it's wrong...

1412. Ms. No - 7/5/2001 5:05:36 AM

Call me naive, but I can believe that it was an honest mistake. If it was a deliberate action there's really no way for me to know for certain.

In any case, CharlieL is in the position of having revealed his real name as well. I don't know that he has ever done so in the Mote or whether he's linked to his band website where his name is posted from the Mote, but it is not a secret in the sense that it can be revealed.

However, Charlie has never gone by his full name nor has he ever been referred to by that name in forum and the use of it is inappropriate without his explicit consent---hence my deletion of the post.

1413. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 5:31:20 AM

Revealing my name is not nearly as important as the fact that CharlieL has gone to the effort through the internet to find my home address and daughter's telephone number and published it regularly to punish me politically.

Because of him, hundreds of people at TT know it now and regularly use it.

And because I bring this up here, warning people, I'm threaten with being banned.

Even in the Tabled Talk thread, this subject is being edited out.





1414. Ms. No - 7/5/2001 7:11:21 AM

RosettaStone has once again been suspended for two weeks for brining up this tireless subject outside the Policy thread against express instructions not to do so.

He brings it up not in an effort to warn people but in an effort to create discord and as such he will be suspended every time he does it. If upon his return he cannot or will not behave in a manner that is less destructive to this forum he will be banned permanently.

1415. don s. - 7/5/2001 7:12:26 AM

And because I bring this up here, warning people, I'm threaten [sic] with being banned.

Well, you're a warning about something, that's for sure.

1416. don s. - 7/5/2001 7:12:42 AM

Cousins marrying, maybe?

1417. RosettaStone - 7/5/2001 11:59:28 AM

So talking about TT in the Tabled Talk thread is off topic?

1418. mgleason - 7/17/2001 10:54:21 PM

2320. Indiana Jones - 7/18/01 2:36:22 PM

Irv: I don't intend to discuss this further here, there, or anywhere--other than through private email. If there is something else you want me to do, you can post it wherever you like or send me your request.

mgleason:

Communication via the moderators is just as much a 'Mote channel' as posting in the forum itself.

This is none of the Mote's affair. CalGal made it clear beforehand that I was not to speak for the Mote and that my views did not represent those of the Mote. Her pronouncement should be sufficient, given all that has occurred, to make it clear without anyone else weighing in, what the Mote's position is.

You and Irv have made your views known publicly. IMO that is sufficient to clear up any misunderstanding. Be that as it may, if you wish me to correct msgreer personally of any misunderstanding you think I have conveyed to her about your respective positions, I will certainly do so.


You made it 'the Mote's business' Indiana, when, in the text of your e-mail, you listed Irv and myself as being among those who had posted support for msgreer in the Mote. That is an untruth. CalGal's opinions don't enter into this one way or the other; you purported to speak for us as members of the Mote.

We attempted to handle this through a moderator so as to spare the feelings of everyone involved; your post in Notices and Queries signalled your unwillingness to proceed in that fashion, which would have been much the simplest solution. I imagine that there is now no need for you to write to msgreer to rectify this situation, as someone is bound to notify her, if she does not read of it herself.

1419. Indiana Jones - 7/17/2001 11:11:48 PM

mgleason: I note your opinion but do not agree with it.

1420. mgleason - 7/17/2001 11:15:41 PM

It is not an opinion, but a true recounting of the events that transpired.

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