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14669. judithathome - 4/23/2005 6:59:24 PM

I wouldn't even pay one fifth of those prices.

But Keoni has some jeans just like those that we would gladly SELL for those prices.

(Can't wait til Arky checks in....)

14670. Magoseph - 4/23/2005 10:57:12 PM

Come on, Arky--we want to know how you feel.

14671. arkymalarky - 4/24/2005 12:39:10 AM

Had a day at the MIL's today while Bob mowed her lawn. I'll have to wait until this slug of a dial-up modem loads the picture to see what y'all are talking about.

I will say this: whatever it is, at those prices I wouldn't own it.

14672. arkymalarky - 4/24/2005 12:42:28 AM

I don't even want to guess what Mose would do.
Of course since they don't have huge tears in them I doubt she'd want them.

14673. wonkers2 - 4/24/2005 3:15:02 PM

How about a little sympathy? It's snowing hard in Michigan with up to 8 inches predicted by tonight.

14674. arkymalarky - 4/24/2005 7:43:28 PM

Dang. It's sunny, cool, and beautiful here. Our Detroit friends are down for a few weeks visiting relatives, and I'll bet they're thrilled at their timing--not hot and humid here, either.

14675. anomie - 4/24/2005 7:54:45 PM

Arky, belated good regards and glad to see yuo back after your surgury? was it? I read about it briefly at work.

Snowing in Michigan? How weird. It's also unseasonably cool here in Charleston SC too. Should be down in the 40s tonight. I love it. The summer's heat and humidity will be here soon enough.

Hi Judith!

14676. arkymalarky - 4/24/2005 9:27:17 PM

Hey Anomie! Great to see you in here! Thanks so much. I had surgery last week, and I'm doing well. I'm done teaching for the year, though. Feels kind of strange, but it will be stranger later after I quit hurting and feel like I'm supposed to be working.

14677. judithathome - 4/24/2005 9:57:00 PM

Hey, Ano and Arky...cool enough here that I have the heat on. Weird weather everywhere.

14678. Magoseph - 4/24/2005 10:47:30 PM

Wonk, keep up posted on the snow in your area--I hear that in certain places you may have 18 inches.

Ano, it's nice to hear from you.

14679. wonkers2 - 4/24/2005 11:50:26 PM

It's still snowing at 6:45 pm, but the temperature is 34 and it's melting about as fast as it's falling.

14680. iiibbb - 4/25/2005 3:23:07 AM

I'm a sucker for a good card trick.

14681. Magoseph - 4/25/2005 11:25:15 AM

iiibbb, I'm wondering how much I miss looking around me when I see something like that.

Hello, Mac!

14682. Macnas - 4/25/2005 1:05:12 PM

Hey there Mago.

14683. jayackroyd - 4/25/2005 7:34:15 PM

skype update

I just signed up for skype out, buying 10 euros of credit. I'm gonna be in Munich for a week, and expect to be able to find a broadband connection, either wifi in a cafe or hardwired in the hotel. It'll let me call back here for 0.013 euros per minute. I tested it locally and it worked. In principle, I could just bring my vonage box and be completely at home in europe, but then I'd have to bring a POTS phone, could only use an rj45 connection, and would have to worry about firewalls.

14684. robertjayb - 4/25/2005 8:00:57 PM

WTF are you talking about?

14685. Magoseph - 4/25/2005 8:21:50 PM

0.013 euros per minute--That's cheap. It costs us 8 cents a minute to call France and Germany with MCI.

14686. jayackroyd - 4/25/2005 8:41:55 PM

Sorry, robert. I couldn't remember where I'd been talking to wabbit about this.

Skype is a voice over IP service that in its main release allows you to communicate for free with other skype users. It's like an internet telephone service. I signed up because I've got relatives in Portugal and Mozamibique that would be nice to talk to for free. The cost of a call creates a sense of constraint on the conversation that vanishes when the call is free. (BTW, there are currently 2.7 million people on line on skype right now.) You need a broadband connection to support it, but the voice quality is excellent if you do.

They also have other services which are not free--among these is the ability to call any telephone from your skype account. I'm going to germany Tuesday night for a week, and would like to be able to call customers at a reasonable rate. Skype lets me do so for, as I said, 0.013 euros a minute from europe. That's way cheaper than a phone card, hotel phone or cell (my cell provider has $1.29/minute roaming charge). I'm taking the computer anyway, and my hotel has a broadband connection. So I can cheaply call the US with this feature, and am pretty happy about it.

14687. jayackroyd - 4/25/2005 8:47:30 PM

Sorry, two mistakes. First, I'm not calling "from Europe" when I am there. I'm calling the US. It would cost the same if I called from here, or if I called France from Germany. The yellow places on this rate map



cost (2nd mistake) 0.017 euros regardless of where you're calling from (including the white places). I tested this by calling Jersey from here in NYC--which will have cost me 1.7 euro cents per minute. Since I spent less than a minute, I have about 587 minutes left in my 10 euro account.

14688. jayackroyd - 4/25/2005 9:03:05 PM

rereading my initial message, I will decode:

vonage box: I use vonage, which is a voice over IP provider that allows me to call any telephone using my DSL connection. 500 minutes for 24.95 per month, including caller id, voice mail, internet voice mail retrieval and other stuff. I plug the vonage box into my router and my phone into the box. I could take the box with me, and make calls from my office phone number anywhere I could find a fast connection.

POTS phone: POTS= "Plain Old Telephone Service" is a widely used acronym in the telecom industry. As with most technology literature, irony abounds. What I mean here is that I'd have to bring my vonage box with me and a telephone and a cord with the standard two or four pin connection you have on your phone at home. I couldn't be sure to find such a phone in my hotel room, nor that the internet connection would be in my room.

rj45: An rj45 is the connector at the end of a network cable that plugs into the network port on your computer. It's like the plug on your telephone (an rj11) but bigger and with more pins.

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