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Boulder's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to (and couldn't afford to) live there. The small town of Nederland, however, is one of the few places I've been that I think I'd love to live in.

15672. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 2:45:49 AM

Nederland is just a few miles from Boulder, and from our cabin.

15673. jayackroyd - 7/1/2005 3:41:59 AM

I didn't like that review very much, Robert. Picking a phone with crappy quality and a complex pricing plan struck ahead of vonage made very little sense to me.

Giving 5 points for international to Galaxy voice pushed it to the front. While 212 seems to be key to this guy, I don't understand why he thinks it matters to other people (and I got a 212 number, actually). More valuable than the 212 would have been the SAME 212 number that I had been using as an office number before. A more useful question would have been whether you could keep your current number. A more useful review would have pointed out that retaining your number is an option for some services, and then evaluated how realistic this option is. For example, I bet verizon does a pretty good job of getting your old number transferred. But it would be nice to know whether it is true.

FWIW, I'm using vonage for normal outbound calls, on the 500 minute for 19.99 plan, with the computer calling option so that I can use my vonage phone on the road without bringing along the router, just a headset. That one also gives me a Maine phone number so that family members can call me toll free, and so I can have a 207 number for sentimental reasons and so I can fool Olympia Snowe's caller id. I retained the old voice line, which is used for incoming legacy calls and for 800 numbers.

I'm using skype for international calls, some skype to skype, some skype-out. I doubt I'll use all of my 10 euros of skype credit on the skype-out calls before it runs out next year, if I can avoid calling mobile numbers (spent 0.32 euros on 18 seconds of no-answers for two calls earlier this week.) Skype-out came in most handy when I was in Europe, before the vonage call by computer feature. I could call the US more cheaply that way than any other alternative I could see. Now I'd use vonage when in a European wifi cafe calling the US.

15674. jayackroyd - 7/1/2005 3:44:01 AM

Sorry, I skipped a half paragraph. His international calculation looked dodgy and unspecified to me. He should have said which 20 countries carried the first 60 minutes free. Links to international rates rather than his scoring system would also have been more useful. It could be that ATT sucks because it is anywhere from a half cent to five cents more expensive per minute.

15675. jexster - 7/1/2005 4:03:37 AM

Somehow I can't pay big bucks for a cat

Worth it!



looks like Sonny (aka Son of Thunder)..the most extroverted, intelligent breed there is...about 600 bucks..I got for 60 cause cattery lady had baby and needed to get rid of the House of Siamese


Boy's now goin on 17 and strong for an old man..Balinese are a hearty breed...

What I can't feature is paying 2000 for a dog

15676. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 4:39:30 AM

Beautiful cat. I can't feature that much, but I think Mazie was worth every penny I paid for her (not nearly $2000). And Mojo was worth every penny we paid for her (zero, except for the vet bills).

15677. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 4:42:28 AM

Dammit. Message # 15363 and Message # 15367, respectively. And

15678. Ulgine Barrows - 7/1/2005 9:24:31 AM

oh jexster, what a wonderful purrbox!

What toys does that cat prefer? Does it go outside? Please tell me claws are intact!

15679. wabbit - 7/1/2005 12:19:45 PM

I agree with Jay, that internet telephony review wasn't very good. For myself, I'm most concerned about quality, then price, and features are at the bottom of my priority list. I've moved so many times that changing a phone number is no big deal to me, and with family scattered all over the place, I'm not married to an area code.

I haven't switched to Vonage (yet), but I use Skype regularly. When Spunky was in New Dehli and Mumbai a couple months ago, we used Skype and found we got far better connections than with the landline. We've also used SkypeOut and had no problems with either connections or call quality.

15680. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 5:34:03 PM

If anyone does plan to switch to vonage, someone should get the referral bonus (two months billing). www.vonage.com/raf describes the details.

15681. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 5:36:48 PM

15679

For me, quality, then features. I like the pick up your voice mail in an internet cafe feature, and getting free all the things the Bells charged 5 bucks a month apiece for (three way, forwarding, voicemail etc). Keeping my number would have been a big deal when I switched, because I'd had that number for years, and given it out to a lot of people.

I'm happy with Skype, although it's a little weird knowing that wabbit always knows when I'm online.

15682. wabbit - 7/2/2005 9:08:21 PM

LOL! You know, I actually thought about that and I removed you from my contacts ages ago. I now see only family contacts. Not that it matters much, since I frequently forget to start Skype anyway, and don't want it to autostart when I reboot.

15683. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 9:54:17 PM

I still have you in my contacts, and I autostart it, because I do want to know when one of my european contacts is online.

15684. wabbit - 7/2/2005 11:07:00 PM

I took you out because I felt like I was peering in my neighbor's window, you know? I also know you use Skype for business, so I'd never ring you without emailing first anyway. Or I figured I could always leave you a message here. And I hate bothering people; I've become a terrible correspondent in any form.

15685. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 11:08:24 PM

Feel free to watch over my shoulder.

15686. Ms. No - 7/3/2005 12:28:21 AM

heh, heh, I'm trying to figure out if you're just really serious about the open society of if perhaps you're something of an exhibitionist, Jay. ;->

BTW my router came in the mail yesterday but I've been lame and haven't hooked it up yet. Once I register I will definitely list you as the referring customer. Heck, I'll even make you my first call!

15687. Ms. No - 7/3/2005 12:43:19 AM

So they're counting down the top 106.7 greatest KROQ bands and we're down to the top 3. I'm a little irked that U2 came in at #4. I figured the #1 spot would be a toss up between U2 and Nirvana, but now I'm wondering what the heck bands are coming in as #3 & #2 as I'm sure Nirvana will be #1. I'm not upset by Nirvana coming in at the top spot although there are lots of other bands I like more. Certainly they were incredibly influential.

I'm hoping they'll post the whole list at some point so I can see where other groups came in.

Holy shit!!! Nirvana is coming in at #3!! What the hell have they got at #1 & #2?

I hate that I've been suckered into listening to all of this. It wasn't so hard when I was out running errands getting in and out of the car all day but now that I'm home I'd rather read and I can't do that with music playing not to mention commercials.

15688. judithathome - 7/3/2005 12:45:02 AM

Well, now I'm waiting for #1...be sure to post it when it hits.

15689. Ms. No - 7/3/2005 12:54:34 AM

hahaha, I just thought of that --- I've now managed to hook at least one other person on this thing.

Damn, my phone is ringing and I can't answer it because I haven't hooked up my router yet. I've still got the land line hooked up and it doesn't pick up. Hasn't for about six weeks. It just rings and rings and rings and then the machine kicks in and it rings some more because for some reason the line can't be engaged from my apartment. I'm sure it's some problem with the line, but I didn't want to deal with the phone company which I hate anyway.

Hell, my phone almost never rings anyway. I mostly use my cell, but it's been going crazy in the last couple of days. Okay, crazy amounts to three calls, but they're likely just sales calls or calls for the guy who used to have my number.

Sheesh.

15690. arkymalarky - 7/3/2005 12:54:43 AM

Me too, and my company's due here any minute. Whenever I get started on anything like that, I can't stop until I get to the end, no matter how lame it turns out to be--which I guess is why that program format is so common.

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