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15853. Ulgine Barrows - 7/17/2005 9:36:56 AM Do you moties know about the wayback machine? Kinda cool.
They have 4 pages from 2000, if you search on www.themote.com. 15854. Magoseph - 7/17/2005 3:10:06 PM magoseph 15843, you are being quite coy with your 'focus on something more remunerative'. Any further hints?
Not being “coy” Ulgine—just talking about my experience with real estate, which was remunerative only because I had much help in finding prospects—the market went down and I left for something that brought me more steady earnings.
15855. Magoseph - 7/17/2005 4:35:24 PM I picked up this test at Demonizing Religion.
The Control Freak Test 15856. Magoseph - 7/17/2005 4:35:43 PM I rated 55. 15857. PelleNilsson - 7/17/2005 4:39:43 PM Interesting grammar, there. 15858. Macnas - 7/18/2005 8:59:56 AM I was going to try the test, but I couldn't truthfully answer any of the questions, as there was not a "none of the above" option, nor a "haven't a clue" option, or indeed a "you must be joking" option. 15859. PelleNilsson - 7/18/2005 10:07:40 AM But note the use of 'they' instead of 'he or she'. Is that a trend? 15860. Macnas - 7/18/2005 11:13:08 AM I suppose it is Pelle. In the bizarre PC world, where once before the hetrosexual couple of he and she was the never questioned norm, we have turned full circle and are now afraid to cause offense to man, woman or animal.
Pehaps there should be a unisex word for he/she, something like "se". 15861. Magoseph - 7/18/2005 2:00:08 PM When talking about our dog, I use the pronouns "he and him” and I know that it is not correct. I was amazed to realize that the grammar error Pelle noted did not get a reaction from me. What really bothers me is how often people use the past participle of ‘to go” as in, for example--I should have went there.
I met this weekend a delightful very old Frenchman in, of all places, one of the local motels where Flexy’s daughter and her family were staying. Not only did he speak English like an educated American, but also spoke French like De Gaulle—what was more startling is that he looked like the general, over six feet tall, a pear-shaped stomach, and a huge nose. This man is the second one I meet in this country who look like De Gaulle—I told my brother about this and he laughed and said—he is a descendent of the Gaulois—we have this type still around, even in our family, remember our grandfather who was called “the grand Charles” even though his name was Emile.
15862. arkymalarky - 7/18/2005 2:39:40 PM But note the use of 'they' instead of 'he or she'. Is that a trend?
Yes, Mac's right. I don't pay much attention to changing trends in grammar, but that one bugs me no end just for the reason it was developed. 15863. arkymalarky - 7/18/2005 2:41:20 PM What really bothers me is how often people use the past participle of ‘to go” as in, for example--I should have went there.
That one bugs me too. I used to think it was a Southern thing, but it apparently isn't. Either that or the South is beginning to have a cultural impact on the rest of the country, which is a very scary thought. 15864. Magoseph - 7/18/2005 2:53:32 PM It is not a Southern thing--I was taught not to use it when I first lived in Chicago, along with not pronouncing the T in "often"--I was told then that only English people and those living in the Deep South have the right to pronounce it. 15865. Macnas - 7/18/2005 3:11:13 PM "The right"??
Well I nevah... 15866. PelleNilsson - 7/18/2005 3:57:36 PM Who pronounces the 't' in often? Scots? Surely it must be a dialectal thing? 15867. Macnas - 7/18/2005 4:10:27 PM We do too. 15868. Ms. No - 7/18/2005 4:25:37 PM Ah, Mac, you'd be looking for the Spivak Pronouns
And even in the Wikipedia definition the "singular they" is mentioned.
THERE IS NO SINGULAR THEY!!!!
Although I suppose the fact that the language changes means it's not dead. Still, some things shouldn't be messed with just because people are too lazy to learn the proper rules. 15869. arkymalarky - 7/18/2005 5:39:01 PM I heard someone on tv (msnbc weatherman) pronounce the "w" in sword the other day. 15870. PelleNilsson - 7/18/2005 5:56:26 PM I pronounce that 'w'. I shouldn't? 15871. thoughtful - 7/18/2005 6:14:45 PM i don't...it's 'sord' to me.
my cousins who lived only one town down always pronounced the 2nd t in words like mitten and kitten.
then there are other words that are frequently mispronounced in our area that seem local to the area...architect where the ch is pronounced...prespiration instead of perspiration...alblum instead of album...oakmeal instead of oatmeal...win-chew wipers instead of windshield wipers....sangwich instead of sandwich...and i never prounounce the 'h' in who and whom unless I specifically want to put on an affectation.
also in our area people so often say things like "her and I went..." that it was only when I started working and people started correcting me that I realized it was wrong. One's ear gets used to hearing things and then they 'sound' right. 15872. Ms. No - 7/18/2005 6:18:38 PM How about "toward"?
I so often hear people say too-ward, or even too-wardz.
It's "tord".....not unlike sword. ;->
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