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18176. thoughtful - 1/11/2006 3:39:02 PM Ouch that sounds terribly painful. My sympathies to Flexy. 18177. PelleNilsson - 1/11/2006 5:07:11 PM Indeed. 18178. Ms. No - 1/11/2006 6:10:10 PM AC,
There are many ways for handling people who always think they're alwyas right, but that isn't really where we started from.
Thoughtful brought up a situation in which it was ridiculous and insulting for her husband to question her judgement and Magoseph brought up a situation in which her advice was very wise and ignoring it caused a painful injury.
Now, in which case are we dealing with a woman who is always right in the sense I suspect you're alluding to where she's truly right only as often and perhaps less often than the men around her but insists on having her way anyway?
18179. Ms. No - 1/11/2006 6:11:11 PM Mago,
Owie, my best to Flexy for a speedy recovery. If his arm is fractured then you'll certainly be walking Butch on your own for awhile. ;-> 18180. alistairconnor - 1/11/2006 6:40:50 PM No, No, I'm talking about the fairly common situation in which a woman is endowed with a larger dose of common sense than her male partner. I'm not saying this is universally the case, only that it's a common state of affairs, and one which I have no particular problem with : after all, it has been demonstrated that men's and women's brains work somewhat differently on a biochemical level.
I am in no way attempting a blanket defense of male disobedience. Clearly, in neither of the cited cases could the "reasonable-contestation" defense be invoked. 18181. alistairconnor - 1/11/2006 6:41:56 PM Anyway. The idea that men are perfectible is overrated. 18182. Ms. No - 1/11/2006 7:23:19 PM Ah, okay, I totally misunderstood, sorry!
I think the idea that humans are perfectible shows the boundless optimism of the species in a general sense, but on an individual level it's terribly unrealistic and mostly a waste of time.
Your third option is definitely the best bet. It provides the course of least resentment in the long run. 18183. alistairconnor - 1/11/2006 7:32:42 PM But my advice on male-female relations is of negative net worth... 18184. Ms. No - 1/11/2006 8:15:13 PM That's silly. Even Babe Ruth lost some games. ;-> 18185. thoughtful - 1/11/2006 8:50:23 PM Actually, it's not at all clear to me that women have more common sense than men. In my biased opinion, it's only that women are more likely to be outspoken about what they think than men. My husband's way of dealing with the situation is instead of speaking up or mentioning anything, he'll let it go to hell and then make a remark like, "I thought you were handling it." Like him sitting in the kitchen with the cookies obviously burning to a crisp inside the oven and saying nothing. 5 min later when I wander back into the kitchen having completely lost track of time, smelling the burning cookies, racing to get them out of the oven, cookies flying everywhere and I look at him exasperated and say,"Why didn't you say something?!?" He'll respond, "Oh, I thought you were handling it."
AARRGGHHH! 18186. PelleNilsson - 1/11/2006 10:07:32 PM There is another way of looking at this. Obviously you were handling this task. You were also mishandling it by "having completely lost track of time". You needed to be taught a lesson not to flit around doing this and that and losing focus on the task at hand.
In other words, my dear thoughtful, you need to be perfected. 18187. Magoseph - 1/11/2006 10:34:04 PM In contrast, I had in the past several dogs, two boys prone to injuries, and a husband who liked dangerous sports. Therefore, I was in the right, as Ms. No pointed out, to warn Flex about giving too much leeway to Butch. In other words, dear thoughtful, I am the perfect person to give advice to old men and their dogs.
Thank you all for your good wishes to Flex. We’re going to the hospital tomorrow morning for the the cast.
18188. alistairConnor - 1/11/2006 11:51:51 PM You are the perfect person, Mago.
You are Woman.
Hear you roar. In numbers too big to ignore. 18189. wonkers2 - 1/12/2006 12:37:56 AM Wonder what happened to Al Davis? 18190. Magoseph - 1/12/2006 12:56:39 AM Gee, thanks, Ali.
Wonk, I was just thinking about him lately--I hope that nothing happened to him. 18191. thoughtful - 1/12/2006 1:04:48 AM Pelle, you are absolutely right. I'm at fault for doing more than one thing at a time.
But being the economist that I am, he could have taught me the lesson without losing the scarce resource of a batch of home made cookies: he could've taken the cookies out of the oven to preserve them and then said nothing and let me discover his rescue on my own, in which case he would've been the hero; or to call to me in the back that my cookies are burning and then justifiably call me names such as 'airhead' and dress me down for not paying attention to what I was doing.
In either case, the cookies would not have been the victim of my inattention. 18192. thoughtful - 1/12/2006 1:05:13 AM So i guess i'm trying to perfect how he's trying to perfect me, if you will. 18193. judithathome - 1/12/2006 2:07:11 AM Al is living the life of Reilly and not missing us at all... 18194. concerned - 1/12/2006 4:05:27 AM Actually, I wasn't thinking so much in terms of whether something is 'right' per se, because such a black and white judgment may be contextually restricted in many cases and if repeated tend to stifle initiative and feelings of self worth in those subjected to such summary judgments.
If a person thinks he or she has being right nailed, isn't that the perfect time to consciously start perfecting their own diplomatic skills? 18195. PelleNilsson - 1/12/2006 8:04:17 AM I hope nobody takes this banter seriously.
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