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21518. Magoseph - 4/9/2007 6:25:08 PM The only mistake that Imus made was to point his attack at a group that is already low on the totem pole.
For example, Imus has called vice-president Cheney a cowardly draft dodger and war criminal that sends young men to their death. I heard statements of this kind and worse from Imus for the last two years without any outburst. (Of course, this could be because I’m not often listening to Fox).
To most people, a Cheney, (or a Clinton), because of his or her status is fair game, but the Rutger players simply are not.
21519. wonkers2 - 4/9/2007 6:34:46 PM The fact that Al Sharpton made an ass out of himself in the Tawana Brawley affair doesn't excuse Imus. Imus has a network TV and radio show. Sharpton was an independent rabble rouser. BTW, Sharpton has cleaned up his act considerably since the Brawley misadventure. 21520. judithathome - 4/9/2007 6:40:24 PM Betty, I forgot to say hello to you the other day and welcome you back; my mom would be appalled at my lack of good manners...how's everything with you and yours? 21521. judithathome - 4/9/2007 6:43:02 PM i BTW, Sharpton has cleaned up his act considerably since the Brawley misadventure.
Not trying to take up for Imus, who I think is a jerk, but Imus has done untold good in the cause of autism and helped myriad childhood cancer patients in the past years. He may be a jerk but he is an altruistic jerk.
21522. thoughtful - 4/9/2007 6:54:31 PM j@h, you're right. And if he were kicked off the air, it would really hurt the ranch as he uses his on air promotion of it as the key source of money raising. He also raised a lot of money for the private rehab hospital in tx for veterans.
I'm a regular listener and it's because he or his sidekicks are funny at times, they are not syrupy like the network tv hosts (that's for sure!) but mostly i listen for the guests. He's a great interviewer as he actually lets the guests talk. Unlike these other shows like matthews who never lets a guest get a word in edgewise or the morning talk show where their idea of getting to know a guest is a 2 1/2 min stint with a commc'l interruption, imus will go on with a single guest for 15 min or more without commercials. And he's able to get some interesting people.
As an aside, hubby has tried the greening the cleaning products and he really likes them.
21523. Magoseph - 4/9/2007 7:02:47 PM I hope he'll live this down after a while--I'd hate for him to go away. I often remember what you said long ago about him, thoughtful, that he was over the line sometimes, but then, there was always "...the occasional pearl. Do you remember? 21524. thoughtful - 4/9/2007 7:57:50 PM sounds like something I'd have said, though to be honest, i don't remember.
Figures all this controversy and I missed the remark when he first said it because we hadn't seen the game yet...we recorded it the night before so as soon as I heard him say rutgers, I turned it off...I was afraid he'd say who won. 21525. Magoseph - 4/9/2007 8:19:22 PM Now, I’m getting upset—even CNBC has something to say about Imus. Everybody who watches Imus knows that he’s not even close to being a racist. He made a terrible mistake, but it was just a mistake. Now, let’s compare him to Limbaugh who, everyone knows, is both a racist and misogynist and the evidence spouts from his mouth anytime you want to listen to him as I did for some time because I was interested in his command of the language. In fact, I listened to him until I could no longer stand his constant attacks on women.
My point is that there is a significant difference between a self-described racist and an absolutely non-racist who makes a mistake. Limbaugh should have been forced out years ago, never to return.
21526. jexster - 4/9/2007 8:21:23 PM Spare us ..Imus had to go to Al Sharpton's confessional
I say call a fudge packer a fudge packer Col Wonkers 21527. concerned - 4/10/2007 1:43:18 AM I was thinking about my MOR political attitude and what makes it unique. I think it is a melding of the most overall conservative attitude that allows most liberal approaches license consistent with human rights, freedom of speech and equality.
It's probably fair to call it a sort of radical centrism since a spectrum of political approaches inhere to it and it therefore usually cannot subscribe wholeheartedly to either end of the political spectrum:) 21528. concerned - 4/10/2007 1:49:27 AM As far as limits to 'liberal' attitudes, I don't subscribe to anarchy (stupid), cannibalism or human sacrifice (inhumane, violates human rights), or unrestricted license in general. 21529. Wombat - 4/10/2007 1:52:35 AM If ignorant and uninformed political narcissism is an ideology, that would be you, Concerned. 21530. concerned - 4/10/2007 1:53:24 AM I like a centrist 'position' that can preserve a wide range of (often opposing) political opinions in its very structure. I think such is least likely to become stale or go wrong. 21531. Wombat - 4/10/2007 1:53:39 AM Or semi-literate, pseudo-educated, quasi-libertarian conservative. 21532. concerned - 4/10/2007 1:54:50 AM Re. 21529 -
I guess I should have expected a cheap shot from one of the leading LW drones in the Mote. 21533. concerned - 4/10/2007 1:55:20 AM Make that two cheap shots. 21534. Wombat - 4/10/2007 1:57:33 AM We've been over this before, but what you call "centrist" seems to have everyone who questions your political opinions to be well to the left of you. Perhaps you could enlighten us by listing what typically "right-wing" or "conservative" positions in today's USA you would vehemently oppose. Something along the lines of the late Acey on creationism, for example. 21535. concerned - 4/10/2007 2:03:24 AM See my current reference to Ann Coulter in the 'Conflict in the Middle East' thread. If you think that is not significant, that's your problem. 21536. Wombat - 4/10/2007 2:06:18 AM Sharpton has yet to admit that he did anything wrong in the Brawley affair. He has not as yet paid the judgement against him for the slanders he perpetrated during the case. I realise that this is "illiberal" of me, but the fact that he has any sway in the Democratic party is disgraceful. 21537. concerned - 4/10/2007 2:08:31 AM Unlike you, Wombat, I'm not in fear of not appearing to kowtow to some didactic political line. That's in my favor and to your disadvantage.
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