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22832. Ms. No - 11/5/2007 6:20:35 AM

Hey, Arky, here's something I have yet to ask anyone: Is the general curriculum for high school English standardized across the nation or is it state by state or, gawd forbid, school by school? I keep meaning to ask and then forgetting and all the high school English teachers I know are online.

I've found info on what students are expected to know at the end of each year, but nothing so far on what literature is focused on in any given year...if they even do it that way anymore.

I attended three different schools in three different states but didn't end up repeating anything, but I don't know if I just got lucky or what.


TX, Fresman: Classical lit & creative writing
CA & NC, Sophomore: Modern American
NC, Junior: Pre-Civil War American
NC, Senior: Brisih Lit

22833. judithathome - 11/5/2007 6:00:51 PM

Damn...how could we forget My Pet Goat?

22834. wonkers2 - 11/5/2007 6:18:07 PM

Great list, Ms. No. But you didn't include your starring role!

22835. wonkers2 - 11/5/2007 6:20:08 PM

I can't imagine how I missed "Catch 22" and "Slaughterhouse Five!" and several of the others.

22836. Ms. No - 11/5/2007 6:39:33 PM

Wonk,

I think some of the ideas that LaBute addresses are important and maybe even especially for high school age students, but I'm not convinced that he's actually a great writer. If I'm going to teach something with explicit language and sex I think I'd rather do Shepard or Mamet, and, even then, I don't know that I'd teach it to high school students, not because they don't know what the stuff is but because their parents would likely run me out of town on a rail.

22837. Ms. No - 11/5/2007 6:42:06 PM

Looking over all our lists I was thinking what a depressing bunch of literature to read overall. I mean, how many happy endings are there in the whole lot?

22838. wonkers2 - 11/6/2007 12:17:27 AM

Life isn't a bowl of cherries.

22839. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 11/6/2007 12:52:51 AM

Life is a bowl of olives . . .

22840. arkymalarky - 11/6/2007 2:54:24 AM

It's fairly standard to do American lit in 11th grade and British lit in 12th--"world lit"--defined very loosely--in 10th. Otherwise the states have frameworks and school to school they are supposed to follow them. Ours are here (pdf): AR English curriculum frameworks

AP courses have their own standards which can be found on the College Board website. To teach an AP course you have to submit a syllabus and they must approve it. I was glad to have both AP English and AP Euro History approved without having to redo, which is fairly common. And Bob's AP Calculus was approved on the first round, as well. It's a one-time thing, thank goodness.

22841. arkymalarky - 11/6/2007 2:56:07 AM

Within all that, btw, you have wide latitude in selecting the lit you teach, restrained only by your budget and textbooks and/or the community in which you teach--which is a huge restraint in some cases.

22842. jexster - 11/6/2007 4:55:41 AM

Say Wonks, didn't I see a picture of you dressed up in one of those Paki Secret Police uniforms somewhere????

This thread right?


22843. jexster - 11/6/2007 4:58:25 AM

Arky..back in the day in rural Lurziana, I took all the advanced courses they offered in high school in the 9th grade so I could qualify for preppie boarding school

1. Algebra
2. World Lit
3. Intro French
4. Civics

That was it...the rest was ag and home economics!!

You should thank the Huck for doing such a fine job in educating the young people of Arkansas

22844. arkymalarky - 11/6/2007 5:25:57 AM

Hahaha! Huck wanted to expand the curriculum and water it down to the point we'd all be able to take underwater basket weaving. What a shame he didn't get his way.

And you know, I read every version of the bill he tried to worm through the legislature. The first was almost 200 pages long, and the last was around 70. I like to think I may have played a small part in getting it defeated.

22845. arkymalarky - 11/6/2007 5:27:08 AM

It's where I experienced the thrill of a "killer" amendment.

22846. jexster - 11/6/2007 6:23:49 PM

And the young people of Arkansas? You condemned them to lives shoveling chicken shit a tyson and sweeping floor at Sam Walton's


I hope you can live with yourself

22847. judithathome - 11/7/2007 12:24:17 AM

See, Arky...he just doesn't GET it!

22848. arkymalarky - 11/7/2007 12:26:48 AM

Actually, Jex, I think those two courses were in the Huckabee curriculum proposal.

22849. jexster - 11/7/2007 12:55:07 AM

easy for Judith to say..her state's already full of Mexicans doing the jobs that the good boys and girls of Arkyland are too well educated to do

Thanks to Hucksabee

22850. jexster - 11/7/2007 7:44:28 PM

The Collected Works of William Butler Yeats

22851. concerned - 11/9/2007 4:39:23 AM

Looks like I'll have to replace some pressure balancing shower valves that are failing after less than seven years of very light usage. The failure mode? They're only putting out trickles of hot water at any setting.

From what I understand, most pressure balancing valves eventually fail that way. When that happens, it's time to rip out the wall behind the shower valve, replace it with another one at a cost of one to three hundred bucks (plus the same in labor, if you don't do it yourself), and re sheetrock the wall and paint it (add another few hundred there if you don't do it yourself).

That's bullshit. I'm looking for non pressure balancing shower control valves that will last for a few decades, not five years.

Anyone else have problems with these little time bombs?

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