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23084. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 1:42:05 AM

And there are some great moments in it, some beautifully written scenes, and in a lot of ways it's a great story. I still get chills thinking about the epilogue and the footprints. But for me, because she never disappears, Morrison just doesn't pull it off. But again, she does for many people. I'd love to have a discussion of the book here if we could get enough interested participants.

23085. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 1:50:16 AM

Wabbit and No, that's an open offer to host it, btw, if you think people are interested. I'll see what kind of response we get in here and maybe after Christmas? Or before? I'm easy now that I'm out of graduate school and activism.

23086. Ms. No - 12/3/2007 3:31:42 AM

That would be pretty cool! I start vacation on Dec 18th --- I leave that morning at 6am for Baton Rouge and then I'm there for ten days, I think, so I could certainly read it in that time and participate either then or whenever we get a group up and going.

(As you can see I have been less than diligent about my paper today -- popping in here every little while and finding chores to do around the house.)

Okay, I swear I'm not coming back until I've got my paper together!

23087. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 4:39:52 AM

Hey, I have so been there! It's comical watching someone else do the Procrastination Tango.

23088. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 4:41:09 AM

That sounds good. Our break is weird this time. We're not out until Dec 22 and go back Jan 7.

23089. wonkers2 - 12/3/2007 4:50:56 AM

Ms. No--I lived in Baton Rouge age 7-17 and graduated from University H.S. at L.S.U. Baton Rouge is a nice town and L.
S.U. has a nice campus. I went back for a high school reunion several years ago and had a ball. I hope you enjoy your stay there. And, as I'm sure you know, New Orleans is an easy drive from Baton Rouge if you have the opportunity. There are some great places to eat and listen to jazz in New Orleans. I'm not up to speed on restaurants in Baton Rouge.

23090. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 5:02:09 AM

Wonk, would you be in for a book discussion around Christmas or after?

23091. wonkers2 - 12/3/2007 5:13:22 AM

Sure. But I don't read a lot of fiction these days, mostly book reviews. I'd be happy to participate if I've read or have the time and interest to read the book(s). Keep me posted. (I see a lot of movies, but I don't read many books. I need to get a stand-up reading desk because I tend to fall asleep reading on the couch or in bed. Oh, the joys of growing old!

23092. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 5:18:52 AM

I TOTALLY understand. For the whole time I was busy with rural ed and graduate school I didn't read a single novel except for my American Novels class. I'll let you know when/if it gets going.

23093. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 5:19:34 AM

The first thing I read after my last class was the Lord of the Rings trilogy. I read it straight through--twice. It was pure joy.

23094. arkymalarky - 12/3/2007 5:20:10 AM

It was a re-read, btw, not a new read.

23095. wonkers2 - 12/3/2007 5:33:50 AM

I've never read the Lord of the Rings although my wife and all three children did. I absorbed some of it by osmosis. I can't criticize it without reading it, but I'm not drawn to that type of literature for some reason. I tend to go for Hemingway-type adventure, Steinbeck realism, and Latin American magical realism (Garcia Marquez and Amado, although Amado may be closer to Steinbeck and maybe Faulkner). When I was a kid in La. I was a fan of Erskine Caldwell and Mickey Spillane. John Barth is one of my favorites. And I have a lot of respect for Updike although I've only read a couple of his books. I've read some of his stories and articles in the New Yorker over the years. He and Pynchon are about my age and that may help me relate to their stuff (which I haven't read any of for a while).

23096. David Ehrenstein - 12/3/2007 6:44:56 AM

"Workable background"? Do they have any idea of the history of race relations in this country?

Do they know that the likes of Will Smith used to be bought and sold?

Do they know what "Jim Crow" means?

Have they heard of Emmett Till?

23097. Ms. No - 12/3/2007 10:05:41 AM

Okay, the damn thing's done and it is embarrassingly bad. But at least it's done.

One down. Two to go.

Wheeeeeee.

23098. arkymalarky - 12/4/2007 12:59:09 AM

David:

Yes, yes, yes, and no. They will before I get through with them in history class, and probably would have a much better background if I did the book in the last quarter. They don't know about Marcus Garvey, Booker T. Washington, etc, except in the most elementary terms, because they haven't had any history since junior high school and they don't seem to have retained much--I wont't say they weren't taught much, because I don't know.

23099. arkymalarky - 12/4/2007 1:01:17 AM

I did a research project for graduate school and it involved a survey of African-American males from ages 14-19. I had an Emmett Till question on the survey and only one participant knew who he was. It was a very small survey because I'm in a very small school, but still.

23100. arkymalarky - 12/4/2007 1:02:49 AM

Isn't that a great feeling, No? I still think about all the papers I wrote in such a short span of time and can't believe it's all done. What a luxury to only write what you want to.

23101. arkymalarky - 12/4/2007 1:04:17 AM

Wonk:

I'm not drawn to that type of literature for some reason.

It's the only literature of that type, outside children's books, that I have liked, and I loved it from the first time I read it in 9th grade. I don't like Sci-fi or fantasy, as a general rule.

23102. arkymalarky - 12/4/2007 1:06:02 AM

And I've never read, nor had any interest in reading the Harry Potter series, though I don't doubt what friends and students tell me about how much they love it. I've been close to having to break up fights between students over revealing parts others haven't yet read when a new book in the series would come out.

23103. jexster - 12/4/2007 2:30:08 AM

My high school


Little's changed in 40 years


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