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2609. arkymalarky - 1/30/2005 7:07:16 PM I've hardly cooked in over two years, but anticipate things getting back to "normal" by mid-April, which means I'll cook a handful of times in the next two years. But Bob and I bought a hickory-smoked ham on a huge sale (it had a lot of fat that had to be cut off, but it was still dirt cheap per pound) and I took the bone and made ham and bean soup with tomatoes--diced, canned, and pre-spiced that Bob used to eat straight from the can before he started watching his sugar. We had a couple of cans I'd bought by mistake. I made Jiffy cornbread to go with it and sent a bunch home with a thrilled Mose (Jiffy is her favorite, over homemade). Good and easy to make, for rainy wintry weather. 2610. PelleNilsson - 1/31/2005 9:02:10 PM From the archives - Report No. 1
I was pleasantly surprised to find that the records of the Seamen's Society in Söderhamn had been digitized and made searchable. No Per Sundgren was registered, however, but there is a Lars Petter Sundgren from Ljusne listed as a captain 1840-1850. This may be our man because Per is the short form of Petter (and Pelle is the affectionate for Per). But the records did not provide details of date of birth which was a disappointment. There is no Sundgren listed as decased 1852-57. On the other hand I don't know what the regulations were at the time. At present it takes 10 years from the disappearance of a person until he or she can be declared dead. I'll extend that line of enquiry but at the time I switched my attention to John Malm.
The photo wonkers posted shows John c. 1930 with his son and grown-up grandson. This would put him at an age of about sixty as a minimum. His wife Johanna, daughter of Per Sundgren cannot have been born later than 1853. The normal marriage pattern, then (as now) is that the husband is a couple of years older than the wife. There are exceptions but these usually involve propertied widows. So John would normally have been at least 80 when the picture was taken. But is this man really 80 years old? I don't think so. An anomaly has presented itself.
So far then, mostly negatives but the quest continues, hopefully on Friday.
Other things I have learnt is that the US 1880 census is searchable through the Mormons, the records of the 1890 census were almost totally destroyed by fire, and the 1900 census and onwards have been appropriated by Ancestry.com which charges a ridiculous fee for access. 2611. wonkers2 - 1/31/2005 9:49:07 PM I'll try to find some more precise information on the Malms and Sundgrens. This will give me an excuse to contact some distant cousins I've never met. 2612. PelleNilsson - 1/31/2005 10:22:44 PM Excellent. 2613. Jenerator - 1/31/2005 10:49:10 PM This will give me an excuse to contact some distant cousins I've never met.
Wonkers,
Did you ever see National Lampoon's European Vacation with Chevy Chase? If so, do you remember when the Griswalds stayed a night with their long lost Austrian cousins? 2614. wonkers2 - 2/1/2005 12:32:10 AM No, but I'll watch for it. I can see how it would have possibilities. 2615. thoughtful - 2/2/2005 3:37:47 PM Well, it's happening again. I was a fan of Rachel Ray and her 30 min meals. Faithfully watched every night I could upon coming home from work. Got terribly inspired, improved my own cooking quite a bit, bought her cookbooks, played with her recipes, learned new dishes.
Then all of a sudden, I o.d.'d and find little in her show to interest me. Go figure.
That happens to me quite a bit. I'll go completely overboard on something, then drop it cold turkey. There are a few things, though, that have stuck with me through the years...peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and law & order reruns. Go figure. 2616. Jenerator - 2/2/2005 3:39:32 PM I love Rachel Ray. I have made several of her recipes and they have all turned out tasty. I have her first 30 Minute Meals book.
The worst, IMO, is Giadis Laurentiis from "Everyday Italian." 2617. Macnas - 2/2/2005 4:33:44 PM I like to watch Delia Smiths cookery programs. 2618. judithathome - 2/2/2005 5:05:15 PM The worst, IMO, is Giadis Laurentiis from "Everyday Italian."
My son is in love with Giada De Laurentiis...he has even tried some of her recipes.
2619. Jenerator - 2/2/2005 5:05:41 PM She's hard to find in this area.
I always liked watching Julia Childs and the Two Fat Ladies. Talk about entertaining! 2620. wonkers2 - 2/2/2005 5:08:30 PM Justin Wilson, the Cajun chef was my favorite--"How ya'll are?" 2621. Jenerator - 2/2/2005 5:50:39 PM I have a school girl crush in Tyler Florence. Bobby Flay is pretty impressive, too. 2622. PelleNilsson - 2/2/2005 10:21:08 PM From the Archives - Report No. 2
I got some unexpected free time this afternoon so I dashed off to the microfiche repository.
First a word about geography. When Söderhamn was founded in 1620 it became a separate parish broken out of the much large surrounding parish of Söderala. Ljusne was part of Söderala until it became its own parish in the 1890's.
I found Per Sundgren in Ljusne in 1851. His real name was Lars Petter Sundgren. There can be no doubt that he is our man. He is listed as a sea captain and there is a note "Ship foundered. Dead at sea 22/2 1854". Furthermore, and as I mentioned, the Söderhamn Seamen's society has a captain L P Sundgren who is last recorded as taking charge of the ship Njord on 10/5 1851. There is no Apollo listed in Söderhamn, however. Considering your protestant background, wonkers, you will be glad to know that the parish priest judged Lars Petter to read well and to know his way around Luther's catechism. He received communion for the last time on 27/7 1851.
In 1851 the family consisted of Lars Petter born in Söderhamn 7/9 1822, his wife Johanna Dorothea Smeden born 22/5 1820 probably in Stockholm (there is an ink blot)and their children Christina born 12/10 1845, Lars Petter born 8/12 1847 and Johanna born 2/1 1850. The household also included Lars Petter's mother Brita-Stina Brändström born in 1797, no place recorded. Her deceased husband L[ars] Sundgren, also a sea captain, was born in Stockholm, no date provided.
In October 1852 the family applied for a residence certificate in Söderala (a form of ID) with the stated intention to move to Söderhamn. That did not materialize, however. They cannot be found in Söderhamn's parish records 1852-55. My guess is that they moved (because they disappear from Ljusne) but within Söderala parish. To search for them there without any further clue will be an overwhelming task.
Johanna Sundgren is another challenge. The record of emigrants is digitized and searcheable. There is no emigrant named Johanna Sundgren or Johanna Malm born in 1850.
The quest continues.
2623. ronski - 2/3/2005 12:01:08 AM Pelle,
He looks 80 to me. A good 80, but 80.
Wonkers,
Was he the one who said, "I gar - ran - tee it!"? 2624. judithathome - 2/3/2005 12:10:58 AM Yes, that was the man. Whooooo-EEEEEE. 2625. alistairconnor - 2/3/2005 1:44:58 PM Excellent Pelle!
Real-time history. 2626. Jenerator - 2/3/2005 7:11:37 PM Judith,
I think that Giadis is pretty and easy to watch, it's just that some of her stuff has tasted AWFUL - the salmon dish I made of hers being the worst of all time.
Her food is generally bland. I don't say that because I am American and normally Americanized Italian dishes are more saucy and more salted, I say it because her food has been pretty bad and pretty tasteless. 2627. thoughtful - 2/3/2005 8:11:50 PM she may not be able to cook, but she's gorgeous! 2628. thoughtful - 2/3/2005 8:13:08 PM the barefoot contessa drives me nuts, not only because she's so outsized, but she reminds me of ed macmahon...she has all these people over for dinner and she's the only one laughing...like yuck it up people...let's pretend we're having a good time for the camera!
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