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2648. judithathome - 2/5/2005 11:54:20 PM Giadis insisted
Why do you keep spelling her name that way? It's GiadA. 2649. PelleNilsson - 2/7/2005 8:01:02 PM On saturday I saw a guy with a camera just like mine who took pictures of the screen of the microfiche reader. That intrigued me so I paid a brief visit today to do the same.
Here is a detail of the entry for the Sundgren family in the 1851-55 period.
Klick on the pic to see a larger version (opens in new window). The text reads:
The skipper Lars Petter Sundgren
Wife Joh Dor Smedén
Daughter Kristina
Son Lars Petter
Daughter Johanna
The column to right shows the place and date of birth. Lars Petter was born in Söderhamn and Johanna Dorothea in Stockholm.
Here is a larger view of the page.
The note at the far right reads "Sailed for Schöning. Ship foundered. Dead at sea 22 Febr 1854".
Schöning was an import-export trader in Söderköping and evidently a rich fellow. He built this house in Söderhamn as his familiy residence.
In the sixth column to the right the priest has noted that the Sundgrens moved to Söderhamn in 1852. That is why the names are crossed out. If they had stayed their second son, Axel Leonard born in 1853, had been recorded (I named him Anders Leonard earlier but that was wrong).
The following three columns are where the priests recorded their ability to read and their familiatry with Luther and the Bible.
The page continues to the right with two columns for each of the years 1851-55. In them the priest recorded if and when each individual went to confession and received communion. 2650. wonkers2 - 2/7/2005 8:07:30 PM Wow! Pelle you should start a website to help Swedish-Americans trace their ancestry. I bet many would pay good money for the kind of investigation you have done for W2. I've been forwarding your posts to my sister and two brothers as well as my three children. All are most appreicative. The care with which the church looked after the members of the flock is impressive or perhaps oppressive to some?? 2651. wabbit - 2/7/2005 9:21:12 PM Pelle, it's a treat to follow this, thank you! 2652. wonkers2 - 2/7/2005 10:08:32 PM Pelle, your information has shown me that the translation of Per Sundgren's letter from Newcastle was not his last letter before going down at sea as I had been told. It was dated September 28, 1852, nearly two years before he was lost at sea. Here is the complete letter. Perhaps it will provide additional clues:
Dear Friend: (Johanna)
My journey from London went fine and I have even had good luck here. The loading of the cargo has not yet caused any delays. My Apollo is water-tight and is in splendid condition and I find myself most satisfied with it all. The only thing that has made me distressed so far is that the crew or more correct some of the crew have been sick. The cook, Moberg and Hedlund. Moberg and Hogberg are back in good health again but not Hedlund. I hope he will be soon.
Tomorrow, provided God wills and if the weather permits--I intend to go out to sea. It is a stream of northeast wind and if it keeps up tomorrow and the days after, then I be staying here. It is such a good wind, oh, if I only was to sea, but I cannot get out there because the wind is blowing too hard and the sea is dreadful in the harbour passage itself.
However, I have hope in God that I soon get out to sea and a fast journey to Genoa where news from you is waiting for me, news that takes up more than can be written on a three and a half ells-long sheet of paper.
I cannot at this point give you any suggestions regarding business, if I were more clear so that I could see you or have an idea how things were going, then I could always give you some help. However, first and foremost be very careful and do not get involved in anything foolish which you do not know anything about or do not understand.
I hope to receive news from you in Genoa and then I know if I may wish you welcome to Soderhamm.
I send my greetings to mother and the children. God give us all good health so we all can meet once again.
I also send my greetings to friends and acquaintances. But first and last my greetings to you.
Yours sincerely,
love,
Per Sundgren
[Per Sundgren and his wife Dorethia Smeden were the grandparents of my grandmother, Ruth Malm.] 2653. ronski - 2/7/2005 11:09:21 PM ...one can of tuna in oil, about three anchovies and two tablespoons of mayo and a tablespoon of capers...
What she's making here is a tonnato sauce, traditionally served on cold or room-temperature cooked veal scallops, vitello tonnato, and I love it.
However, while some people use that many anchovies, I would use at most one, and maybe skip it entirely. The tuna is flavorful enough, especially with capers (I love capers, and have been known to put them, and the larger caper berries with a stem, in martinis. Yum.) 2654. ronski - 2/7/2005 11:10:13 PM And we had the nicest skiing yesterday. Good snow, and not a cloud in the sky all day. 2655. robertjayb - 2/8/2005 12:30:46 AM Birds of the backyard...
Spotted one lone robin week before last then yesterday the largest flock I can recall seeing. Today there was a raid of waxwings or titmouses or some such. Unlike the robins, they did not tarry. Gone in sixty seconds.
All departed to the northeast, naturally. Arky has birds incoming. 2656. arkymalarky - 2/8/2005 12:59:00 AM Cool!
I've been talking with people around here who swear up and down they've seen black panthers, but G&F people swear up and down there aren't any in AR. Mose and her b/f were driving somewhere the other night and swore what they saw was a black panther crossing the highway. A student of mine said a ranger told him that officially they say there aren't any in AR but actually there are. I wonder why that would be.
I heard one scream near our house once, but I don't know whether it would have been black. I guess yellow ones do, too. It was very creepy--just like a woman being murdered, which is what people always said they sounded like.
Since none of our neighbors came up murdered, I figured by default it must've been a panther. 2657. PelleNilsson - 2/8/2005 10:22:37 AM Wonkers, there is something odd about the sequence of events in 1852-55 and Johanna Dorothea's movements from Ljusne to Söderhamn to Bergsvik and back to Ljusne. Also,the exact date given for Per's death puzzles me. If correct there must have been survivors or observers who saw the ship founder. Maybe it is rather the date when he was officially declared dead.
Regarding the church, the objective of all that record-keeping was control. Control of the state's resources in form of the tax base and the supply of men to the army and control to ensure that the pure Lutheran faith was not polluted.
2658. PelleNilsson - 2/8/2005 10:51:53 AM I forgot to say that yesterday I had the idea to check the emigrant data base for Johanna Dorothea's sons and I was lucky. Axel Leonard emigrated in 1879 to Bishop Hill, Illinois. That was a religious community founded in 1846 by the self-appointed prophet Sven Jansson to prepare for the second coming of Christ. You can read about it here and here. But when Axel Leonard arrived the religious fever had subsided, at least I think so. Or maybe he never arrived there. In the 1880 census he is in Moline, Rock Island, Illinois, occupation blacksmith.
What this means is that if luck holds I can trace Axel Leonard back to 1865 when I lost the family. But probably I won't be able to any more research this week. 2659. ronski - 2/8/2005 5:12:18 PM arky,
When attacked, deer make a sound not unlike a woman being murdered.
Of course, I suppose it could have been a panther doing the attacking. 2660. thoughtful - 2/8/2005 5:21:52 PM Pelle, I too have been enjoying the Sundgren saga, and amazed at the details available. Excellent job. 2661. thoughtful - 2/8/2005 5:22:50 PM My understanding is bobcats will also scream like a woman being murdered. After hearing it one night, my mother insisted the boys go up in the woods to look for a dead body...no body found, but they did find bobcat tracks. 2662. thoughtful - 2/8/2005 5:24:07 PM Yesterday we had a flock of cedar waxwings at the feeder and last week for a short while, a sharp-shinned hawk visited.
 2663. wonkers2 - 2/8/2005 5:35:59 PM Beautiful shot. We get mostly sparrows, a few doves and an occasional cardinal. And, of course, lots of fat squirrels. 2664. thoughtful - 2/8/2005 6:17:33 PM Sorry...that is a linked pic...I didn't manage to get a shot of the one who visited my tree...he was there only a few minutes. Just don't want to get undeserved credit. 2665. arkymalarky - 2/8/2005 9:02:40 PM Ronski and Thoughtful, it may have been a deer or bobcat, but I'd never heard that about them, though I have about panthers ever since we've lived here. We have an excess of deer and I've seen two bobcats (one dead on the road, but still...). They're very cool. We do have a few panthers/cougars, they say just not black ones. But I know too many credible people who claim to have seen them. 2666. thoughtful - 2/8/2005 11:56:48 PM Of course, then again, I never knew there were black squirrels until I saw one...we now have one in the neighborhood. our usual stock is gray.
 2667. arkymalarky - 2/9/2005 12:36:30 AM I've seen one or two. The weirdest squirrel I ever saw was a brown one with a white tail that used to live by the school. I haven't seen it in a while.
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