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2672. PelleNilsson - 2/15/2005 10:11:54 PM

Note 1
I'm puzzled by Johanna Dorotheas illegitimate child because it falls outside the expected behaviour of a middle-class widow. Now consider the timeline.

(1) 28 Sep 1852 Lars Petter (Per) writes from Newcastle where he waits for favourable winds.
(2) 22 Feb 1854 Per is noted as dead at sea.
(3) Oct 1854 Erik Eriksson and Johanna Dorothea conceives their daughter Maria Erika born 22 Jun 1855. At that time they are described as betrothed..
(4) 2 Dec 1855. They marry.

Then assume that Per was known to be missing, presumed dead, at a much earlier date than October 1854 but that there was a mandatory legal delay between "presumed dead" and "declared dead". A sea-faring community like Söderhamn/Ljusne must reasonably have developed a sub-set of the normal social code to handle situations like this. So maybe the child was not at all seen as scandalous.

Note 2
Someone who moved into a parish would have to present himself or herself at the vicarage and turn over the migration certificate obtained at the parish of origin. But Stockholm was growing very rapidly at the time and the church could not keep up with its control function. It would have been easy to take up residence in Stockholm without papers.

2673. SnowOwl - 2/15/2005 10:17:53 PM

Pelle, this is really fascinating stuff. Thanks for all your hard work.

2674. SnowOwl - 2/15/2005 10:19:37 PM

It appears that Sweden is going to be home (at least temporarily) to another of my children. My youngest daughter is heading that way later this year to do a bit of nannying for her big brother and family when his wife returns to work.

2675. thoughtful - 2/15/2005 11:04:36 PM

good job, pelle. I'm amazed at your patience for exploring all this stuff and amazed at the detailed records kept over the years. Very neat.

2676. wonkers2 - 2/16/2005 12:32:20 AM

Thanks again, Pelle! I'm glad you haven't found any really bad skeletons in my family closet! At least no inventors of TNT, or Swedish match kings or the like. :-)

2677. thoughtful - 2/17/2005 9:16:37 PM

On my morning constitutional, I saw a raccoon. Looked a little young but not a real baby....more adolescent....looked way too tame. S/he was kinda curled up behind a tree stump looking at me....looking at me a little forlornly. I didn't see any obvious signs of disease or illness like foaming at the mouth or any signs of derangement. Rather it looked a little lost and in need of help. I hated doing it, but I just looked back for a little while and then walked on.

Driving to work I spotted a fat raccoon dead in the road maybe 1/2 mi from where I spotted the other one. Maybe Mom got hit and the little one is lonely and scared. Don't know, but it bothered me. I know it's best to leave nature to it's own, but it tugged at my heart strings. I'm hoping, if that's the case, that it is old enough to figure out life on it's own. Raccoons are pretty smart that way.

2678. uzmakk - 2/27/2005 5:31:47 PM

I bought
this radio last fall and highly recommend it to anyone who is in the market for such a thing. Portable, rechargable battery, great sound, sensitive tuner. Among my excuses for the purchase was that I didn't have a radio to take camping.

2679. PelleNilsson - 2/27/2005 9:12:29 PM

A 3.5 lbs contraption for camping? One assumes you hire carrier-wallahs for your expeditions.

Snowing in the east:


Snowing in the west:


And clearing up:

2680. jayackroyd - 2/27/2005 9:15:54 PM

I was wondering if anybody knows about silver place settings. This is a set of six with the serving utensils shown:



I can't tell whether it is plate or solid silver. The fork has a pair of symbols, an equilateral triangle on one of its points followed by what looks like a carrot laid on its side followed by a sideways 4, "800",a sickle moon and then a crown. The manufacturer is Baden Pforzheim, and it is pretty certainly pre-WWII. The question is whether to sell the stuff or just give it to the local thrift store.

2681. PelleNilsson - 2/27/2005 9:24:10 PM

Only the fork?

2682. jayackroyd - 2/27/2005 9:31:23 PM

Sorry, I got the order of the symbols wrong.

Sideways 4, "800", sickle moon, crown, carrot, triangle is the correct order.

2683. jayackroyd - 2/27/2005 9:31:42 PM

The fork has the largest number of symbols.

2684. SnowOwl - 2/27/2005 9:42:51 PM

There's some information about hallmarks here:

German hallmarks.

The fact that it is hallmarked with the silver purity included suggest that it is solid. The crown and crescent appear on all German silver post 1884 - that's the State mark.

2685. jayackroyd - 2/27/2005 10:09:40 PM

Thanks SnowOwl. That link was very helpful.

2686. jayackroyd - 2/27/2005 10:10:27 PM

It seems that this stuff was actually manufactured by Bremer Silberwarenfabrik. The Baden Pforzheim was on one of the serving utensils, which may be a ringer.

2687. judithathome - 2/27/2005 10:19:24 PM

Don't give it away, whatever you do.

2688. Ronski - 2/28/2005 12:42:17 AM

Our house, a few days ago.



2689. Ronski - 2/28/2005 12:43:07 AM

And more snow on the way. The groundhog called it right.

2690. alistairconnor - 2/28/2005 12:22:48 PM

Back from the hot New Zealand summer, I spent two and a half hours this morning getting the kids to school and myself to work. Usually takes me an hour, but I got stuck in three different places, and had to dig myself out of the snow with an aluminium frying pan.

I was pleased to have survived the 40-hour return journey pretty well, but now I'm exhausted.

I enjoy contrasts. Up to a point.

2691. Macnas - 2/28/2005 2:40:24 PM

With a frying pan?

Oh I'm laughing now.

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