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27815. judithathome - 12/10/2013 10:18:30 PM

Forget sales...if he has no customers, he takes a loss on everything, regardless.

When I was in business, I never paid more for any goods than I could make three times what I paid. I did give discounts but never to the point that it would bother my bottom line.

Of course, I was in a rather unique business, retail but not really....

27816. alistairconnor - 12/18/2013 3:13:19 PM

Yep, your local retailer really cannot compete with Amazon and their supply chain. He would literally be losing money if he matched prices.

It really bothers me that I buy so much stuff from them. Particularly that in Europe, they have so much latitude to shift money around and end up paying no company tax -- no local company can compete with that; also that they have been flouting French employment law in their local logistical operations.

27817. judithathome - 12/19/2013 1:01:05 AM

Just face it...local businesses cannot compete with on-line companies. They simply can not.

When you need to purchase something, just put yourself in an independent retailers' place and see if what you paid for the product and what you feel (or KNOW) you have to receive back in order to "make money" on it is worth it...look at it as if what you paid for the product is worth selling it for more or less than what you paid for it.

Retail and resale are cutthroat businesses...I am astonished at anyone who attempts to start a business these days.

27818. arkymalarky - 12/19/2013 2:19:46 AM

I don't think Amazon is out of the red yet, though. They spent so much for so long, and I don't know what their bottom line looks like. On another note, I LOVE my new phone. What you see here is exactly what I said.

27819. iiibbb - 12/19/2013 4:51:29 PM

I didn't ask him to match the Amazon price. I asked him to match a discount he offered me but with me only buying 2 units instead of 4.

27820. iiibbb - 12/19/2013 4:53:53 PM

I also clearly gave an opening for a counter offer... the retailer just dropped it altogether.

27821. judithathome - 12/19/2013 7:45:13 PM

Look, I was just trying to explain things from the viewpoint of the vendor...having been one before, I thought it might give you a different perspective or at the very least, help you better understand why the person might have been reluctant to cut his profits and/or bottom line.

Imagine yourself having a business where you price things at a point YOU think is fair to both you and the customer and then everyone who walks in the door wants you to cut that price "just for them" and will walk out the door and possibly publicize the fact you aren't willing to "deal" to anyone who might be thinking about coming into your shop...it's a delicate line to tread.

He many never sell those things you were interested it...that might give you a secret thrill but enough interactions like that for HIM will shut his his business down. It's not easy being a small business person.

27822. iiibbb - 12/19/2013 8:28:41 PM

That's why I didn't insult him by countering my own offer.

I made my pitch. Felt weird about it. Ordered from Amazon because I don't have tons of extra money to throw around.

I will make it up to the vender the best I can by buying a few small-ticket items.

27823. arkymalarky - 12/25/2013 4:14:52 AM

Check out vihart.com or look up vihart on YouTube. Amazing.

27824. thoughtful - 12/25/2013 2:17:00 PM

Merry Christmas Moties! Hope your holiday is happy and bright.

27825. wabbit - 12/25/2013 5:51:02 PM

Merry Christmas to all!

27826. arkymalarky - 12/25/2013 6:24:22 PM

Merry Christmas! I love you all--even the ones who haven't been around in a long time. And I miss the ones who are gone. Great times, great memories.

Hope everyone has a safe and happy day!

27827. Ms. No - 12/26/2013 3:21:36 AM

Merry, merry, Christmas!

27828. alistairconnor - 12/26/2013 4:16:04 PM

Yo ho ho! That doesn't sound right. Ho ho y'all!

I have spent some time hanging out with my Daughters -- a rare treat to see them both together. Elder Daughter scammed me out of a new laptop for Christmas -- she needs a fast machine to do video editing, so I got her a Toshiba with a Pentium i7. She convinced me that it was important for her career, and she couldn't possibly afford it on her own. Which is true, but still a scam, since she later confessed that she has blown all her babysitting income on a ticket to Brazil for spring break...

That's the danger, you give them a taste for travel, and they soon have friends to visit all over the world. (She's also going to Serbia for winter break, but at least she's doing that on the cheap.) She's finishing her Batchelor of Communications degree in Avignon, and looking further afield.

Her 6 months in Finland seems to have given her a taste for pasty complexions, lousy climate and national drinking problems -- she is now envisaging a four-year photography degree at the Glasgow School of Art. For my money she's already a phenomenal photographer, but I may be biased.

27829. alistairconnor - 12/26/2013 4:17:00 PM

(that should read : a phenomenal photographer)

27830. arkymalarky - 12/26/2013 6:40:55 PM

Wow. Lots of nice ones. The bird in flight is very cool.

27831. wabbit - 12/31/2013 6:28:46 PM

Good eye - I remember meeting her in NYC when she was but four years old.

Happy New Year moties!

27832. arkymalarky - 12/31/2013 9:06:23 PM

Happy New Year!

27833. Wombat - 1/1/2014 4:25:08 AM

Happy New Year, Motiers! Hope the new year will be better than the old!

27834. judithathome - 1/1/2014 7:04:19 PM

I'm with Wombat...hope this year is as nice as our cozy evening at home last night watching Peter O'Toole movies.

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