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28075. jexster - 3/22/2006 4:59:36 AM "You cannot evade the issue of God, whether you talk about pigs or the binomial theory, you are still talking about Him. Now if Christianity be. . . a fragment of metaphysical nonsense invented by a few people, then, of course, defending it will simply mean talking that metaphysical nonsense over and over. But if Christianity should happen to be true - then defending it may mean talking about anything or everything. Things can be irrelevant to the proposition that Christianity is false, but nothing can be irrelevant to the proposition that Christianity is true." GK Chesterton
28076. jexster - 3/22/2006 9:51:16 AM Anglican Leader Says the Schools Shouldn't Teach Creationism
LONDON, March 21— The Archbishop of Canterbury opposes teaching creationism in school and believes that portraying the Bible as just another theory devalues it, he said in a newspaper interview published Tuesday.
"I think creationism is, in a sense, a kind of category mistake, as if the Bible were a theory like other theories," the archbishop, the Most Rev. Rowan Williams, told The Guardian. "Whatever the biblical account of creation is, it's not a theory alongside theories. It's not as if the writer of Genesis or whatever sat down and said, 'Well, how am I going to explain all this?'
Cantaur Brings On a Mighty Monty Python 28077. anomie - 3/26/2006 12:29:12 AM Just getting around to reading your post 28069, Thoughtful. Not sure anyone could have said it better. I'd like to see Jen's reply, but I think I'll have to wait a while longer. 28078. arkymalarky - 3/26/2006 12:32:25 AM will it be italic? 28079. anomie - 3/26/2006 12:32:33 AM I remain perplexed at the assertion that it takes a God to explain the miraculous. As if the ordinary can exist and carry on without one. Same with creationism, which asserts that life is too complex to be explained without a creator...but everything else can exist without one? 28080. arkymalarky - 3/26/2006 12:32:48 AM Hmm. 28081. arkymalarky - 3/26/2006 12:33:41 AM That was not to Anomie's post, but to the italics issue. 28082. anomie - 3/26/2006 12:38:15 AM Sorry. Don't know how to play wth the "toys". 28083. arkymalarky - 3/26/2006 12:42:13 AM That's been up there several days, but hardly anyone posted since the open tag(s). 28084. Adam Selene - 3/26/2006 4:33:38 AM Anyone here read the gnostic gospels of Jesus? I've almost finished it... amazing.
If you dont' know - these are the "new" gospels discovered in 1945, written in coptic (nearly modern heiroglypics) and dated to be circa 100-200Ad. In other words, as old or older than the "true" gospels. These writings put christianity in a whole new light and really highlight how the catholic church cherry-picked the books they wanted to focus on their interpretation. The one by Mary Magdelen and another that mentions Jesus kissing Mary... wow.
Basically - gnostic versions of christianity focus on self-knowledge of god and do not require a priest to mediate. Much like the "modern" protestent movement, but even more radical if you can believe it.
Anyway - I'm really wondering how the new translations are playing with the religious conservatives? Are these new gospels even acknowledged? 28085. Adam Selene - 3/26/2006 4:35:57 AM Anyone here read the gnostic gospels of Jesus? I've almost finished it... amazing.
If you dont' know - these are the "new" gospels discovered in 1945, written in coptic (nearly modern heiroglypics) and dated to be circa 100-200Ad. In other words, as old or older than the "true" gospels. These writings put christianity in a whole new light and really highlight how the catholic church cherry-picked the books they wanted to focus on their interpretation. The one by Mary Magdelen and another that mentions Jesus kissing Mary... wow.
Basically - gnostic versions of christianity focus on self-knowledge of god and do not require a priest to mediate. Much like the "modern" protestent movement, but even more radical if you can believe it.
Anyway - I'm really wondering how the new translations are playing with the religious conservatives? Are these new gospels even acknowledged? 28086. Adam Selene - 3/26/2006 4:38:14 AM Anyone here read the gnostic gospels of Jesus? I've almost finished it... amazing.
If you dont' know - these are the "new" gospels discovered in 1945, written in coptic (nearly modern heiroglypics) and dated to be circa 100-200Ad. In other words, as old or older than the "true" gospels. These writings put christianity in a whole new light and really highlight how the catholic church cherry-picked the books they wanted to focus on their interpretation. The one by Mary Magdelen and another that mentions Jesus kissing Mary... wow.
Basically - gnostic versions of christianity focus on self-knowledge of god and do not require a priest to mediate. Much like the "modern" protestent movement, but even more radical if you can believe it.
Anyway - I'm really wondering how the new translations are playing with the religious conservatives? Are these new gospels even acknowledged? 28087. Adam Selene - 3/26/2006 4:39:40 AM Anyone here read the gnostic gospels of Jesus? I've almost finished it... amazing.
If you dont' know - these are the "new" gospels discovered in 1945, written in coptic (nearly modern heiroglypics) and dated to be circa 100-200Ad. In other words, as old or older than the "true" gospels. These writings put christianity in a whole new light and really highlight how the catholic church cherry-picked the books they wanted to focus on their interpretation. The one by Mary Magdelen and another that mentions Jesus kissing Mary... wow.
Basically - gnostic versions of christianity focus on self-knowledge of god and do not require a priest to mediate. Much like the "modern" protestent movement, but even more radical if you can believe it.
Anyway - I'm really wondering how the new translations are playing with the religious conservatives? Are these new gospels even acknowledged? 28088. Adam Selene - 3/26/2006 4:40:42 AM so I hit refresh to see if anyone's posted... and get duplicates of my last post. This sucks.
Fix please. 28089. Wombat - 3/26/2006 5:08:42 AM Adam Selene: A real blast from the past. 28090. arkymalarky - 3/26/2006 5:12:05 AM Ain't it though.
But give up on refresh, Adam. The vcr buttons are your friends. 28091. judithathome - 3/26/2006 6:39:46 AM Adam, if you MUST refresh, go back to the front page and do it...don't do it on the thread you've just posted on...
It is not going to be fixed, trust me. You have to adjust. ;-)
And another thing, on weekends, this place is not busy at all. It is a rare thing to have your posts answered within an hour, much less within minutes. 28092. jexster - 3/26/2006 4:45:54 PM Last week's TPMC Book Club featured Kevin Phillips and his best-selling American Theocracy
There was a gaggle of various commentator/reviewers and load of comments on the comments all of which can be found starting here
Consensus: Just say no to snake chunkers (Earl Long's)
28093. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 3/26/2006 5:27:13 PM 
28094. Jenerator - 3/26/2006 5:42:55 PM Adam,
They're not new. Plus, they're required reading for us in school (at Christian universities and seminaries).
I find most of them to be rambling esoteric sayings that have no coherency and consistency.
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