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28332. Jenerator - 5/19/2006 7:58:51 PM Jex,
You need to come to Sunday school with me - I think you'll be disppointed to discover that you're not the topic of conversation and study. 28333. Ulgine Barrows - 5/20/2006 3:43:52 AM 28327. Adam Selene - 5/19/2006 2:29:08 PM
Well, it's Da Vinci Code Day
I think I'll wait for it on HBO. I rather liked the book. Esp since I was raised Catholic and wasn't supposed to read it.
Har, this other catholic lady I know said that made her go buy 10 extra copies and distribute it. 28334. Adam Selene - 5/22/2006 3:03:10 PM My wife decided not to face the crowds, so we'll go see the code next week I guess. My take from listening to all my friends- the movie is painfully faithful to the book, which means it drags a lot. 28335. judithathome - 5/22/2006 6:22:00 PM And the casting is misguided and the plot sucks, according to other reviews. 28336. wonkers2 - 5/23/2006 5:22:54 PM The Campaign to Defend the Constitution has a full page ad in today's papers captioned "MEET AMERICA'S MOST INFLUENTIAL STEM CELL SCIENTISTS" followed by pictures of
Rev. Pat Robertson--"Before long, we'll be harvesting body parts from fully formed people. Onec you begin this utilitarian use of cells, then everything is up for grabs."
Rev. Jerry Falwell--"...the President was right to ban federal money going to this dangerous and unethical research."
James Dobson--"Experiments on the blastocytes, which are fertilized eggs, has a Nazi-esque aura to it." 28337. jexster - 5/27/2006 10:25:24 PM How much for Kosher Meat?
18th Century Tolerance: George Washington willing to buy Jewish or Atheist workers
By John Stuart Blackton
We should not over-romanticize the liberal-mindeness amongst the political lights of America’s early years.
Michelle Goldberg is quite clear-eyed about the Founders, but I sense an element of historical mistiness in some of the threads that have accompanied the discussion this week.
There was a certain worldly pragmatism that infused the religious tolerance of our eighteenth century forbears.
Consider George Washington’s open-mindedness about buying a new bricklayer for his farm at Mount Vernon. Washington writes to ask a friend and business colleague, Tench Tilghman, to buy such a craftsman for him at a sale in Baltimore, and indicates that he does not mind if the man purchased happens to be a Jew, a Muslim or an Atheist – so long as he is young, strong and reliable.
George Washington to Tench Tilghman
Mount Vernon, March 24, 1784.
Dear Sir:
I am informed that a Ship with Palatines is gone up to Baltimore, among whom are a number of Trademen. I am a good deal in want of a House Joiner and Bricklayer, (who really understand their profession) and you would do me a favor by purchasing one of each, for me.
I would not confine you to Palatines. If they are good workmen, they may be of Asia, Africa, or Europe. They may be Mahometans, Jews or Christian of an Sect, or they may be Atheists.
I would however prefer middle aged, to young men and those who have good countenances and good characters on ship board, to others who have neither of these to recommend them, altho, after all, the proof of the pudding must be in the eating.
I do not limit you to a price, but will pay the purchase money on demand. This request will be in force 'till complied with, or countermanded, because you may not succeed at this moment, and have favourable ones here after to do it in.
My best respects, in which Mrs. Washington joins, are presented to Mrs. Tilghman and Mrs. Carroll. and I am etc.
Mount Vernon, March 24, 1784
Blackton is posting to a VERY illuminating series on Michelle Goldberg's book on fundamentalist christian nationalist freaks (Left Behind crowd) at TPMCafe Kingdom Coming
Bio: Senior Foreign Service officer and a veteran of four years' Army service in Indochina.
After leaving the Foreign Service he joined the faculty of the National War College as professor of National Security Policy
Blackton currently works as an international consultant on security and governance issues, particularly in Iraq and Afghanistan.
His clients include the United Nations, the World Bank, the European Union, the German Bundeswehr, and other international organizations.
Those were the days...to be a gay Virginia gentleman 28338. arkymalarky - 5/29/2006 12:52:47 AM All right, Kuligin. Come out of lurk mode and tell us all your scoop about Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. 28339. Adam Selene - 5/29/2006 3:02:09 AM Angelina Jolie? hmm...I just watched her in GIA on dvd.
Yum. Dangerously Yum. Was she acting or is that just her in the flesh (as it were?)
Oh, wait - wrong thread. This goes under movies... or sexuality? Not sure. 28340. arkymalarky - 5/29/2006 3:38:59 AM What's GIA? 28341. Adam Selene - 5/29/2006 4:32:45 AM Gia on Netflix
Angelina Jolie is mesmerizing in her breakout role as supermodel Gia Carangi, a cover girl who lived fast and died at age 26 from the ravages of AIDS. This fact-based Home Box Office film (which won an Emmy and two Golden Globes, among other awards) follows Gia from busing tables at her father's diner to the glamorous world of high-fashion photography and finally to her downward spiral into drugs and toxic relationships. Faye Dunaway co-stars. 28342. jexster - 5/31/2006 1:21:15 AM In Salon an interesting interview..
Going beyond God
Historian and former nun Karen Armstrong says the afterlife is a "red herring," hating religion is a pathology and that many Westerners cling to infantile ideas of God By Steve Paulson 28343. jexster - 5/31/2006 8:49:48 PM The WackedOut "chrisitan" heretics will NOT be left behind..
A new video game coming out...blood guts guns and violence for GOD
Yes indeeed Jen and her offspring can play a real family game together slaughering musllms, fags, jews/..you name it..on their way to meet their "lord" in the air
Coming Soon 28344. Adam Selene - 6/1/2006 12:21:07 AM Excellent link for Karen Armstrong's article. I must say I totally agree with her. Although I do cringe at the "opiate of the masses" implications - but beyond that I think she's on to something real in her interpretation. 28345. wonkers2 - 6/1/2006 1:42:34 AM I liked Karen Armstrong's piece, too. She seems like a pretty tolerant lady and so does her religion. Too bad her stuff can't be bottled or put in the drinking water. 28346. jexster - 6/1/2006 2:49:34 AM Yea she's great. Never heard of her. Dollars to donuts our nearly departing Bishop Swing has. He's off on his United Religions thing which I half jokingly refer to as his campaign to be Pope of the Universe.
The Coming United Religions by +William E. Swing 28347. Adam Selene - 6/7/2006 3:02:16 AM Today is 6/6/6, and no one has anything to say about it? 28348. judithathome - 6/7/2006 4:18:34 AM What? D-day, the sixth of June? What's to say? ;-) 28349. Ulgine Barrows - 6/7/2006 7:16:11 AM 28347. Adam Selene - 6/7/2006 3:02:16 AM
Today is 6/6/6, and no one has anything to say about it?
scritchy scritchy bitey bitey on your back, beastie. 28350. Adam Selene - 6/7/2006 11:53:08 PM Ulgine... you give me shivers.... 28351. Ulgine Barrows - 6/10/2006 9:03:41 AM The wars you bring, the babes you drown.
Those lost at sea and never found,
And its the same the whole world round.
-XTC
my brother's dead, I think
Haven't heard from him in 9 years
Mother: No thugs in our house!
Father: No thugs in our house!
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