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28948. jexster - 9/18/2007 1:57:27 AM ACCIPITE ET BIBITE EX EO OMNES: HIC EST ENIM CALIX SANGUINIS MEI NOVI ET AETERNI TESTAMENTI, QUI PRO VOBIS ET PRO MULTIS (3) EFFUNDETUR IN REMISSIONEM ...
Mysterium Fides
28949. Ulgine Barrows - 9/22/2007 7:14:05 AM My Latin isn't up to par. 28950. Ulgine Barrows - 9/22/2007 7:17:42 AM I really love and hate the Catholic church. It's in my mind, part of me.
I know it is a screwed up religion, but part of it is a real comfort, at times. 28951. judithathome - 9/25/2007 1:28:33 PM Community College instructor in Iowa fired for teaching that the story of Adam and Eve should not be literally interpreted
He teaches the Old Testament as part of a Western Civ class from "an academic standpoint."
"I put the Hebrew religion on the same plane as any other religion. Their god wasn't given any more credibility than any other god," Bitterman said. "I told them it was an extremely meaningful story, but you had to see it in a poetic, metaphoric or symbolic sense, that if you took it literally, that you were going to miss a whole lot of meaning there."
Bitterman said he called the story of Adam and Eve a "fairy tale" in a conversation with a student after the class and was told the students had threatened to see an attorney. He declined to identify any of the students in the class. 28952. anomie - 9/26/2007 10:17:20 PM Jen, the problem with Christians is their false sense of persecution. Just because some of us want to protect our kids and our schools and public institutions from their wacky ideas, you call it "hate". You're not content to practice your faith freely, you want to impose it on others using public property and public funds to do so. Many of you either pretend not to understand the establishment clause or you think it applies only to religions other than yours. 28953. anomie - 9/28/2007 1:18:42 AM Arkansas nuns run amuck....from CNN:
LITTLE ROCK, Arkansas (AP) -- Six Catholic nuns have been excommunicated for heresy after refusing to give up membership in a Canadian sect whose founder claims to be possessed by the Virgin Mary, the Diocese of Little Rock announced.
The Rev. J. Gaston Hebert, Little Rock diocese administrator, called it "a painfully historic moment."
The Rev. J. Gaston Hebert, the diocese administrator, said he notified the nuns of the decision Tuesday night after they refused to recant the teachings of the Community of the Lady of All Nations, also known as the Army of Mary.
The Vatican has declared all members of the Army of Mary excommunicated. Hebert said the excommunication was the first in the diocese's 165-year history.
28954. jexster - 11/4/2007 9:08:37 PM was at mass..we have a priestess associate who is on the faculty at the Episcopal seminary in Berkeley. She is also one of two clergy on a Dutch govt financed study group "Creating Ritual Space"....fgravy train until 2012!
Seems the dutch having turned their cathedrals into museums are now frantic about ritual..for good works, for peace..for the dead. for whatever...they're trying to develop Dutch Civic Religion
She worked her recent seminar in Amsterdam into the homily at mass this morning
I suggested field trips to Lenin's tomb and Solemn Adoration of the Flagpole (aka pledge of allegiance)
28955. wonkers2 - 11/4/2007 9:56:22 PM And the Episcopal church is disintegrating thanks to Jexter and his pals. 28956. jexster - 11/4/2007 10:14:49 PM 
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28957. jexster - 11/5/2007 12:57:50 AM From the Evil to the Divine
28958. concerned - 11/28/2007 10:28:33 AM I just figured out what the real problem is with Islam!
Details coming soon... 28959. concerned - 11/28/2007 10:43:43 AM Would you look at this?
I tried to post what was wrong with Islam to the "Islamic Board" and I got this message:
You have been banned for the following reason:
No reason was specified.
Date the ban will be lifted: Never
Looks like I already did something to hurt these camel fuckers' feelings.
28960. concerned - 11/28/2007 10:58:15 AM These camel fuckers can't be very tolerant if they are offended by my viewpoints.
Freedom of speech forever! 28961. concerned - 11/28/2007 11:40:17 AM
I have figured out what is wrong with Islam.
The Messenger Muhammad tried to enslave Allah and instead cursed Islam with permanent backwardness and bloodshed.
How did he do this?
Muhammad traveled to Medina in 622 A.D. to attract followers to his new faith. When the Jews of Medina refused to convert and rejected Muhammad, two of the major Jewish tribes were expelled; in 627, Muhammad's followers killed between 600 and 900 of the men, and divided the surviving Jewish women and children amongst themselves.
To justify this genocide, Muhammad completely contradicted his earlier religious teachings that emphasized religious tolerance, thus unwittingly representing Allah as a hypocritical, idiotic and capricious deity who in actuality merely 'existed' to serve Muhammad's own personal objectives of the moment.
Subconsciously, and in many cases consciously. this fact is apparent to most Muslims, which provides a convenient cover for the slightly more intelligent, avaricious and least principled of them to seize power in the name of Islam and shamelessly manipulate the less self aggrandizing Muslim majority in the name of religion. Such has it been with Islam for the last 1400 years.
28962. wonkers2 - 11/28/2007 3:00:06 PM Let us know when you figure out what's wrong with Christianity, Judaism and the rest. 28963. jexster - 12/2/2007 9:22:08 PM Oh Come Oh Come Emanuel
Boys II Men
28964. jexster - 12/2/2007 9:30:24 PM Whatever you do TD..Don't remind Wonk of the detritus that's become his immortal soul
 28965. wonkers2 - 12/9/2007 1:45:42 AM Jex just can't get things under control in California! San Joaquin diocese bails on Episcopal Church over gay and women's rights issues 28966. alistairconnor - 12/9/2007 2:34:16 PM Pursuing my irregular series on obscure or apocryphal saints, I draw to your attention, Saint Pierre Louis Marie Chanel.
The other day at choir practice, a glossy brochure was thrust upon me, recounting the mission and martyr of this local son of the Lyon region, sent to bring to Christ the antipodean and anthropophagic Polynesians of Futuna.
He came to a sticky end, having transgressed some local taboo and threatened the established order. The sources claim that he was "hastily buried", but I prefer to imagine, and it is not implausible, that he was eaten by his executioners. In any case, his brother missionaries, when they dared to return a couple of years later, found little in the way of relics.
Accompanying the brochure was a leaflet, calling for chorist volunteers to prepare a spectacle : a play, and an oratorio cantate, to celebrate the anniversary of the missionary's death, the 27th of April (a public holiday in the French territory of Wallis and Futuna, celebrated
 by the repentant locals).
He was a priest of the Marist order, the Society of Mary. I had always assumed that they were a major and well-known outfit (there are several Marist high schools in my home town of Auckland, and several more in my adopted city of Lyon), but in fact they were founded in Lyon, and given their license by the Pope on the explicit condition that they should evangelise the South Pacific, which apparently nobody else had volunteered for.
Though apparently they also have a presence in Looziana? 28967. alistairconnor - 12/9/2007 2:38:22 PM Oops, here's the celebration of St. P-L-M-C.
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