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29064. Jenerator - 6/17/2008 12:22:14 AM Jexster,
Remember when I mentioned the principle of nasikh/abrogation last year? It was when we were discussing Islam.
I found a whopper of an article. When you have time, check it out, it's illuminating:
Essay Regarding the Basic Rule of the Blood, Wealth and Honour of the Disbelievers. 29065. jexster - 6/17/2008 12:58:53 AM Who wrote that?
I can scarcely understand all that Muzzie talk about kafirs, kafurs etc..I don't think the author likes me
Thanks be to Allah he don't want me to convert. What a boring religion. 29066. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/27/2008 5:14:07 PM 
29067. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 6/27/2008 5:16:21 PM 
29068. jexster - 7/6/2008 12:50:34 AM The Archbishop of York...
SAY WHAT?!?!?!?
 29069. David Ehrenstein - 7/6/2008 2:55:22 PM Click. 29070. jexster - 7/6/2008 3:23:54 PM Damn how did you get Harpers to cough up a cover story? I tried. I am a subscriber
Good article 29071. David Ehrenstein - 7/6/2008 4:44:20 PM Google is your friend. 29072. wonkers2 - 7/6/2008 4:48:01 PM Too bad. The Episcopal Church, along with the Quakers and Unitarians, is one of the last bastions of Chrisitan tolerance and rationality. 29073. jexster - 7/8/2008 2:26:25 AM Church of England vote opens door to female bishops
Synod rejects compromise deal and raises fears of split with traditionalists
29074. jexster - 7/16/2008 12:23:50 AM Natural Blues
29075. jexster - 8/7/2008 1:22:40 AM Archbishop of Canterbury: Gay relationships "relfect the love of God" 29076. jexster - 8/10/2008 8:52:16 PM Better lock up the cat
Ricardo Avila and William Bonnell invite the parish to their nuptial Mass, with Fr. Paul as celebrant, on Saturday, 18 October 2008, at 3pm, at St. Francis’ Episcopal Church (399 San Fernando Way at Ocean Avenue, San Francisco). For directions and other information, see www.theknot.com/ourwedding/ricoavila&wmbonnell.
B4 they try to marry her29077. jexster - 9/8/2008 2:18:26 AM In the greatest city named after Saint Francis, San Francisco, CA, the first exact replica of the Porziuncola Chapel is being built. This project has the full cooperation of the friars in Assisi and is under the high patronage of His Eminence Cardinal William Levada, Archbishop Emeritus of San Francisco, Archbishop of San Francisco, George Niederauer and Angela Alioto, SFO. The new chapel will be a center for pilgrimages and for peace initiatives for the whole U.S. and for the whole world.
Wikipedia
Gotta learn to READ THE FINE PRINT
I have to send in a written RSVP for Porziuncola Shrine Dedication at the end of this month which must be received by Wednesday. Almost missed reading that little detail
The invite is from Newsom Angela and the Archbishop with "sponsors" from Episcopal Bps Andrus, Swing to the Buddhists, the Jews and the goddamn Muslims. Ratzinger's Ratzinger, Cardinal Levada, leads the luminaries
I actually have already been there but don't specifically recall the Basilica but do remember my grandmother showing me the Porziuncola with hushed and reverent tones
National Shrine of Saint Francis of Assisi
The exciting Renaissance Project will recreate the little church that Saint Francis himself rebuilt. He named this little church the "Porziuncola", meaning "little corner of the world", that is, his "portion".
It was here that Saint Francis began to understand his vocation to follow the Gospel and give up all worldly goods, pray for and advocate peace, and of course, take care of the poor and sick. The Porziuncola is also the place where he founded the Franciscan Order of the Friars Minor in 1209, "establishing here his home".29078. jexster - 9/13/2008 1:55:49 AM Spiritual Warfare Continues
Poor Clares
EWTN
29079. jexster - 9/14/2008 3:01:48 AM Alistair leads Te Deum
Notre Dame
9/12/08
29080. jexster - 9/21/2008 7:01:43 PM In case Jen missed this..
I star or at least an extra
Corpus Christi Procession..not Texas either
29081. Jenerator - 9/21/2008 9:22:41 PM Still worshipping that splinter, eh?
When does Christ actually figure into your life, Jexster? 29082. wabbit - 9/21/2008 9:56:58 PM Jexster and Jen,
Can you kindly break down the main differences between Catholicism and Protestantism? The simplistic version, from reading you two, boils down to:
Catholics: big into Mary and the holy trinity
Protestants: all about Christ, not so much about Mary
Catholics: pro-life, period
Protestants: pro-life, depending on the circumstances
Catholics: anti birth control
Protestants: pro birth control, depending
Both: anti sex-education in schools
Catholics: regular confession
Protestants: no formal confession
Both: death-bed conversion is good enough for eternal salvation
Neither seems much interested in how a person actually lives their life. It all boils down to belief in God/Mary/Christ or taking Christ as your personal savior, and everyone else, regardless of how Christ-like they may be in their day-to-day lives, are going straight to hell.
I'm not looking for your individual interpretations, just a basic break-down of the major points.29083. Jenerator - 9/21/2008 10:12:28 PM Wabbit,
I think that your listed differences, though simplistic, are quite accurate. Where I disagree with you, though, is with this:
Neither seems much interested in how a person actually lives their life. It all boils down to belief in God/Mary/Christ or taking Christ as your personal savior, and everyone else, regardless of how Christ-like they may be in their day-to-day lives, are going straight to hell.
For me, and what I have seen, heard, read, been exposed, to, taught and discipled is that how we live our lives is EXTREMELY important! I don't even know where to start in answering you with this. As Christians, we are called to be transformed by Christ and we are to hold every thought and deed captive to the obedience of Christ. We are to daily and continually seek his guidance in all that we do, and we must use the Bible as our plumb line. Now, granted, we are fallible human beings with a tendency for disobedience and stubbornness, but we are called to be light and salt of this world - and we do that by exhibiting compassion and mercy. We are called to share God's word and witness to the world. We are to help equip other Christians through our natural gifts, mature in the scriptures and be wise teachers and parents and members of the community. It's that perpetual war against the flesh that brings us back a step, and it's our stubborn nature and tendency to not rely on the authority of Christ that causes us to do the wrong things. How we live matters, absolutely.
In the scriptures it's made very clear that apart from Christ man is not saved. However, it's ultimately up to God to judge each man's heart. In the meantime, we Christians are called to love on and share the word with nonbelievers if possible.
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As for doctrinal differences between Catholics and Protestants, there are key issues at stake. We have more in common than we do otherwise; however, there are some definite differences as I am sure you know already and have listed above.
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