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45288. concerned - 11/15/2012 9:45:50 PM Jobs are created by small business owners, 97% of whom make less than $250,000 per year.
With an income of 'less than $250,000 per year' (- which means what, on the average, $150,000?) which will be taxed at 30-35% off the top, most of them couldn't even hire a single employee at much more than minimum wage part time, let alone handle FICA and health insurance for their employee after they settle their own personal and business capital expenditures. Better recalculate. Your numbers don't work. 45289. concerned - 11/15/2012 9:46:54 PM Re. 45285 -
What does that make 0bama, then, who does that all the time? 45290. concerned - 11/15/2012 9:49:26 PM iiibbb -
Answer this question honestly, please? Do you really believe that all Republicans are 'millionaires', or are you just pretending this to exercise you partisan prejudices?
Care to take a wild guess at what the average income for a Republican household is? Bet you don't have the guts. 45291. concerned - 11/15/2012 9:59:02 PM Re. 45284 -
Arky -
It's your side that is screwing over people bigtime who can't afford health insurance. Employers are hiring them part time to avoid 0bamacare penalties and now they have to pick up their own insurance after their salaries are reduced by at least 40%.
You're pretty messed up to accuse anybody else of wrongdoing regarding healthcare when your side is effing up the situation so royally for low income workers.
45292. concerned - 11/15/2012 10:06:16 PM The Department of Labor released a jobless claims figure for the week after the election showing an increase of 78,000 over the previous week.
Not saying this increase will hold up to its full extent, but if it did, it would eventually translate into an unemployment rate in the 14% range.
You Lefties are great ones for dumping people out of frying pans straight into fires and then screaming it's all the other guy's fault. You have just posted a whole series of posts above doing exactly that. 45293. concerned - 11/15/2012 10:10:55 PM Even Jesus says you Lefties are wrong. You are the protypical example of somebody who gives a man a fish....and then in a truly corrupt twist, promising him more fish if he votes for you, rather than teaching him how to fish (encouraging private enterprise). That wouldn't work for you because you wouldn't have bought him off. Sick sick sick. 45294. judithathome - 11/16/2012 12:26:45 AM Calling on Jesus AND Hitler within 6 posts? You're an absolute pip! And reaching far beyond your grasp with both cites. 45295. Wombat - 11/16/2012 1:48:30 AM Read your own posts, Concerned. There are none so blind as those who will not see. 45296. arkymalarky - 11/16/2012 2:39:06 AM You've gone round the bend, Con'd. What you're saying makes no sense. Maybe you're not Colbert. McCain? 45297. Wombat - 11/16/2012 6:37:38 PM Oh my Ghod!!!! Thanks to "0bama," Hostess has gone out of business? Where will we get deep-fried Twinkies??? 45298. concerned - 11/16/2012 6:46:19 PM Hey, why should you guys be the only ones who get to post ridiculous stuff? 45299. concerned - 11/16/2012 6:46:24 PM Hey, why should you guys be the only ones who get to post ridiculous stuff? 45300. Ms. No - 11/17/2012 12:27:15 AM Re: 45288. concerned
My point is that for 97% of small business owners their taxes will not increase.
I can walk down the street past hundreds of small businesses where the owners are not only not making a quarter mil a year, they're not making 100k.
The idea that the owners of "small businesses" routinely make upwards of $250,000 is a total crock. 45301. concerned - 11/17/2012 2:56:03 AM US Census Bureau Figures from 2008 show that sole proprieterships and small businesses with 10 or fewer employees that would comprise the vast majority of firms with profits less than $250,000/yr employed fewer than 35 million people. And sole proprieterships (only one person in the business - no employees) made up over 21 million of that total - additionally, many sole propieterships do not make enough to support even one person, but are 'side' businesses.
Businesses with 10-100 employees which would basically round out the rest of what would be considered small businesses, employed over 29 million people in 2008. Most of these would expect to average profits well over $250,000 a year.
The rest of the private sector, employing over 100 people per firm, is very important, needless to say, providing work for over 78 million people in 2008. Here, we are looking at profits ranging from the millions to the billions of dollars per year per firm.
So, to say, as you are, that the only thing worth considering is that only the smallest businesses providing livings for only about 15% of private sector employees won't be directly hurt by Democrat tax increases is unacceptable. The other 85% requires full accountability, not to be ignored as Democrats would want.
The disastrous impact of 0bamacare makes the above situation even worse. 45302. concerned - 11/17/2012 3:00:05 AM I noticed some of you sneering at Hostess shutting down throwing 18,500 people out of work, due to incredibly stupid union intransigence.
You Lefties have all the innate sympathy for others of a scorpion. 45303. Wombat - 11/17/2012 3:35:45 AM Yup, and the fact that the Romneyesque holding company that ran Hostess--while filing for bankruptcy--tripled the pay of its President (to over $2 million per year) and handed out generous salary increases to other executives, had nothing to do with it.
From the Wall Street Journal:
"Creditors of Hostess Brands Inc. said in court papers the company may have "manipulated" its executives' salaries higher in the months leading up to its Chapter 11 filing, in what the creditors called a possible effort by Hostess to "sidestep" Bankruptcy Code compensation provisions.
The committee representing Hostess's unsecured creditors alleges that information it has gathered suggests "the possibility" that the company converted a chunk of its top executives' pay from performance-based bonuses to salary, "at least in part to sidestep" rules...."
So, the union gets blamed for the actions of sleazy executives, and workers lose their jobs. That's Romney-style management for you. If Concerned had the innate sympathy of a scorpion, it would be a step up, even if it is an insult to scorpions. 45304. arkymalarky - 11/17/2012 3:37:56 AM You mean stupid hedge fund investors. But hey, they gave their CEOs a raise! 45305. arkymalarky - 11/17/2012 3:40:40 AM Amen Wombat 45306. arkymalarky - 11/17/2012 4:25:26 AM I thought a lot about posting this, since I didn't ask permission. This woman and her husband are wonderful people. She lost her job a few weeks ago. He works full time. There are a few typos, but I think it's one of the most eloquent, touching perspectives on the working poor I've ever read:
“Although I do not claim to have the patience of Jobe [sic], I am however, thankful for having more patience than the couple behind me at the grocery store today when I messed up my WIC items and had to go back to exchange them….it took a whole 30 seconds because to keep someone else from being “put out”, I ran…pregnant and all…and still got the dirty looks, toe tapping, and grunts and sighs…made me really sad to see that two people could get so angry (and even make a comment as I pushed my buggy out of the store) because I cost them a whole extra 30 seconds of standing in line or maybe it was because I receive WIC and they feel they paid for my milk and juice….why don’t people have compassion any more…Why don’t they exibit [sic] empathy any longer??? Here I was with a three year old, pregnant and just trying to get the groceries to feed my family, and made a little mistake, and I even felt the need to apologize and didn’t so much as get a nod or an its ok, just another hateful look….I am also thankful the cashier was so very sweet and understanding and showed compassion toward me when those behind me could not….she made me feel better, you know like a human who means something, and for that I hope God blesses her…what a sweet smile to brighten a dark experience.”
I cried and cried when I read it, then sat on it awhile. I personally think she should edit and publish it. 45307. thoughtful - 11/17/2012 4:56:50 AM I'm not so sure that's a comment on being part of the working poor or as much a comment on the general loss of empathy, compassion for others, and a general rise in self-centeredness that seems to be permeating society. I doubt the couple could care less that she was on WIC....I suspect they were miffed for being inconvenienced.
Trinkaus' work suggests that small courtesies (cooperating with the limit of items in the express lane at a grocery, stop signs, pushing shopping carts back) are not only rarely observed but that the rate of observation is deteriorating.
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