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45348. judithathome - 11/24/2012 7:07:36 PM Michigan Republicans Offer Tax Credit For Fetuses After Cutting Tax Credits For Children
November 23, 2012
"Come January," reports the New York Times, "more than two-thirds of the states will be under single-party control, raising the prospect that bold partisan agendas." That's one way of putting it. In Michigan, where Republicans hold a super-majority in the state legislature, we can see how that may play out in the redder states, as lawmakers toy with the idea of a $160 tax credit for fetuses starting at 12 weeks of gestation.
As The Guardian reports that the bill is designed “to recognise that mothers have additional bills to pay.” I think we can all agree with that, but the rationale is hard to swallow in a state that last year cut tax credits for children -- actual breathing, eating kids.
45349. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:05:52 PM Wombat gets it exactly backwards, as usual - Greece's debt financed nanny statism has no relationship at all to Tea Party policies and are often directly opposed to them.
Only fools like Wombat would fail to see the warnings that Greece and the other Socialist European states in crisis are providing to US Leftists. 45350. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:10:28 PM Democrats Are Going To Make It Nearly Impossible To Pass On A Farm Or A Business To Your Children
After all, if one owns a square mile or two of farmland, that make him or her 'rich', even though average income is far below the six figure range.
More examples of how wrongful and destructive Leftist economic ideas are. They want to effectively put an end to small farms now. This is more of the usual Leftist terminal stupidity.
45351. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:13:44 PM In Illinois, a Democrat controlled state since forever, there is no child tax credit whatsoever, so where does that put Illinois Democrats if Michigan Republicans are so 'bad', JAH? 45352. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:18:47 PM Guess that means that Illinois Democrats are 'out of touch', too. They're not handing out money fast enough, according to JAH. That's the totality of her 'gimme gimme oink oink' argument. 45353. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:26:54 PM In the Communist Manifesto Karl Marx said that the government should confiscate all property that would otherwise be passed down from generation to generation. Looks like US Democrats are more than halfway there. 45354. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:34:02 PM As usual, you miss the entire point...I was mentioning the fact Wis. is taking away tax credit for the living and giving it to the unborn.
It would seem to me this is backward and might encourage more families to procreate...without regard to the fact they might not be able to pay for the kids they already have.
Rather than reading what I wrote, you use it as a way to slam the Dems. In another state.
Try defending the Republican policies I was highlighting, why don't you? Unless, of course, you can't.
45355. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:36:17 PM Here's Wombat accusing 0bama of a 'profound lack of seriousness', since it is generally acknowledged that the European Socialist system is what 0bama and most Democrats wants to model the US after:
And in general, attempting to compare Greece to the United States in any way, demonstrates the profound lack of seriousness....
Wombat - you are an anencephalic partisan hack who couldn't find your ass even with your head jammed up it. 45356. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:39:27 PM Only fools like Wombat would fail to see the warnings that Greece and the other Socialist European states in crisis are providing to US Leftists.
Do you even have a clue how the people in Greece live? Did you know that the majority of the poplulation there doesn't pay taxes? They just flat refuse...unlike here, where prople who owe taxes pay them or go to jail. No one goes to jail for not paying taxes in Greece.
So you're off on the wrong foot already, with your alleged "warnings" to the USA that we will go the way of Greece...the only people in this country acting like Greeks are the richest people in this country...who get out of paying taxes by parking them in shelters in overseas banks.
But that's just fine with you, isn't it, because they are Republicans.
45357. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:40:10 PM Re. 45354 -
I won't say that I'm in favor of tax credits for the unborn - that seems to be mostly a bit of political grandstanding - but I was pointing out that state tax credits for children are far from universal in the USA. Now, both Illinois and Michigan have tax *deductions* for children/dependents. 45358. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:41:20 PM 45355.
Sheesh. 45359. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:43:31 PM I was talking about Wisconsin. Period.
You drag in some strawman defense of two other states...as usual...argue what you want to, not what others point out to you.
Save your energy on slamming me for the next 40 posts...I'm out for the day. 45360. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:44:49 PM Did you know that the majority of the poplulation there doesn't pay taxes?
That's because corruption is so widespread in Greece - virtually the opposite situation from that of the Tea Party where the vast majority of them *do* pay their taxes in full.
Greece currently has a full-on Socialist government and has flirted with Communism in its coalition governments.
To in any way suggest Tea Partiers are equivalent to 'socialists' and 'communists' in Greece as Wombat is implying is about the most delusional, wrongheaded thing one can do. 45361. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:45:53 PM Re. 45348 -
Post definitely refers to Michigan. 45362. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:51:55 PM Sorry...all those Northern states look alike to me. 45363. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:57:23 PM I suggest it would be wise to stop beating up on Tea Partiers who are among the most productive and honest citizens in the US and start going after real social and economic problems. There's certainly plenty of them. 45364. concerned - 11/24/2012 9:07:25 PM I know the Kock Brothers were involved in the founding of the Tea Party, but so what? Just because George Soros, who told the Australian: "Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work" funds a wide spectrum of Leftist causes doesn't mean that they're all evil, does it? 45365. concerned - 11/24/2012 9:08:11 PM Ooops...
I know the Koch Brothers were involved in the founding of the Tea Party, but so what? Just because George Soros, who told the Australian: "Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work" funds a wide spectrum of Leftist causes doesn't mean that they're all evil, does it? 45366. judithathome - 11/24/2012 9:11:59 PM Koch brothers...and yeah, so what? They thought their money could buy an election and they were wrong...tey still have more money than God and they are still polluting the country and getting away with it...giving people cancer with their dirty businesses but so what?
You have to admit there are some pretty insane people in the tea party...and almost to a man, they lost in this election, Koch Bros. money or not. Unfortunately, the people suffering from cancer from the run off of chemicals from Koch Industries are losing, too. 45367. Wombat - 11/24/2012 11:16:58 PM "Get the government out of my medicare." The tea party in a nutshell. A collection of entitled folks with a great deal of time on their hands, who resent the hell out of anyone else they think might threaten their lifestyle, particularly when done by the n****r President of their country. Our own Concerned personifies their stupidity.
The best part about them is that they cost the Republicans at least four senate seats in the last two elections. Also their brand of selfish crazy was an excellent motivation to get out the vote.
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