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45360. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:44:49 PM

Did you know that the majority of the poplulation there doesn't pay taxes?

That's because corruption is so widespread in Greece - virtually the opposite situation from that of the Tea Party where the vast majority of them *do* pay their taxes in full.

Greece currently has a full-on Socialist government and has flirted with Communism in its coalition governments.

To in any way suggest Tea Partiers are equivalent to 'socialists' and 'communists' in Greece as Wombat is implying is about the most delusional, wrongheaded thing one can do.

45361. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:45:53 PM

Re. 45348 -

Post definitely refers to Michigan.

45362. judithathome - 11/24/2012 8:51:55 PM

Sorry...all those Northern states look alike to me.

45363. concerned - 11/24/2012 8:57:23 PM

I suggest it would be wise to stop beating up on Tea Partiers who are among the most productive and honest citizens in the US and start going after real social and economic problems. There's certainly plenty of them.

45364. concerned - 11/24/2012 9:07:25 PM

I know the Kock Brothers were involved in the founding of the Tea Party, but so what? Just because George Soros, who told the Australian: "Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work" funds a wide spectrum of Leftist causes doesn't mean that they're all evil, does it?

45365. concerned - 11/24/2012 9:08:11 PM

Ooops...

I know the Koch Brothers were involved in the founding of the Tea Party, but so what? Just because George Soros, who told the Australian: "Destroying America will be the culmination of my life’s work" funds a wide spectrum of Leftist causes doesn't mean that they're all evil, does it?

45366. judithathome - 11/24/2012 9:11:59 PM

Koch brothers...and yeah, so what? They thought their money could buy an election and they were wrong...tey still have more money than God and they are still polluting the country and getting away with it...giving people cancer with their dirty businesses but so what?

You have to admit there are some pretty insane people in the tea party...and almost to a man, they lost in this election, Koch Bros. money or not. Unfortunately, the people suffering from cancer from the run off of chemicals from Koch Industries are losing, too.

45367. Wombat - 11/24/2012 11:16:58 PM

"Get the government out of my medicare." The tea party in a nutshell. A collection of entitled folks with a great deal of time on their hands, who resent the hell out of anyone else they think might threaten their lifestyle, particularly when done by the n****r President of their country. Our own Concerned personifies their stupidity.

The best part about them is that they cost the Republicans at least four senate seats in the last two elections. Also their brand of selfish crazy was an excellent motivation to get out the vote.

45368. concerned - 11/25/2012 12:22:34 AM

Jesus, Wombat - you're a racist a-hole.

45369. concerned - 11/25/2012 12:26:59 AM

The Fiscal Cliff- Don't Jump!

excerpt:

As the nation nears the so-called fiscal cliff, Republicans in Congress must be wary of the solutions being put forward for a "grand bargain" by President Obama and Democrats in Congress. Unsurprisingly, the President and the Congressional Democrats are using tempting but dishonest rhetoric – calling for "fairness," a "balanced approach," and a "return to Clinton Era tax rates" to balance the budget.

This rhetoric is misleading for several reasons. First, Democrats are not really proposing going back to the Clinton Era tax rates. If income, capital gains and other tax rates were raised to Clinton Era levels, these higher rates would be in addition to all of the Democrats’ tax hikes enacted since the 2006 election, such as those contained in ObamaCare and the 2009 Children's Health Insurance Program expansion (CHIP). Democrats have no intention of eliminating the tax increases imposed during Obama's first term. So, the real result of their "balanced approach" would be higher taxes than existed under Clinton for virtually everyone – not just "the rich."

Second, as explained below, the Democrats' rhetoric completely ignores the fact that anemic economic growth, not tax cuts, is the main cause of the budget deficit. Any effort to bring the budget into balance should focus on pro-growth tax and spending policies, not misguided tax hikes. Voters will recall that Obama stated during the 2008 campaign that he would raise taxes out of "fairness" even if doing so would result in lost revenue due to decreased economic activity. One has to wonder if the President’s push for tax hikes is motivated not by deficit reduction, but rather by a misguided sense of fairness.

Third, the Democrats' budget argument is disingenuous because it ignores the impact that spending has had on the budget picture. Federal spending is growing faster than inflation. Put another way, the government’s budget has been growing faster than your family’s budget.

Fourth, the Democrats' budget framework ignores the fact that regulatory policies have also hampered economic growth. To be sure, a regulatory regime at the EPA that wants to "crucify" certain businesses and a President who wants to "bankrupt" other businesses (coal plants) are damaging the economy. The Democrats' are ignoring the cost that excessive regulations pose on the economy and, in turn, how these costly regulations reduce federal revenue by slowing economic growth.


You Lefties let me know what, if anything, you disagree with in this excerpt.



45370. Wombat - 11/25/2012 9:00:28 PM

Typical transference from Concerned. I describe the sentiments conveyed at countless Tea Party demonstrations, and Concerned calls me racist.

45371. Wombat - 11/25/2012 9:12:31 PM

Concerned,

Opinions don't equal analysis. An opinion piece from a former Republican party congressman, and present Town Hall hack, is meaningless. We know what you believe, Concerned. Pasteing nothing but pieces that express opinions that you agree with is bordering on Jexter-ish spam, nor is it evidence of your mental and political acuity. Any moron can cut and paste stuff ad nauseam, as you continually demonstrate.

Oh, the current natural gas boom is probably going to do more to kill the coal industry than any amount of Federal regulations.

45372. iiibbb - 11/25/2012 11:39:06 PM

There is hope for the Republican party

45373. judithathome - 11/25/2012 11:43:51 PM

I heard Congressman Peter King say today that in the late 40s, they signed pledges not to attack Japan again but the "sell by" date has sorta passed on the need for THAT pledge.

They gave Grover 20 years...it's over now and high time for it to be, too..

And while Graham may sound sane on this one, the rest of his time on the gas bag shows showed him to be over-the-edge monomanical about Susan Rice.

45374. Wombat - 11/26/2012 12:08:36 AM

Before we celebrate the cracking of the GOP tax-cut religious stance too much, let's see what they'll demand in return.

45375. judithathome - 11/26/2012 3:55:32 AM

First borns, for sure....

45376. iiibbb - 11/26/2012 5:08:35 AM

All I said was hope... didn't say nuthin' else.

45377. concerned - 11/26/2012 9:57:21 AM

Wombat - you're the whackjob who said Greeks not paying taxes were basically equivalent to US Tea Partiers.

That's one of the craziest things I've ever heard. You clearly will post any insane thing whatsoever to try to cover up Socialism's abject failures and shortcomings.

You have shown that you simply don't have the standing to criticize any conservative opinion whatsoever, in light of your irrational Left Wing hackery.

45378. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:15:33 AM

ObamaCare Faces the Implementation Iceberg

It wouldn't surprise me if the Federal Exchanges never are fully implemented considering that only 20 states are setting up their own.

I am thankful that my nearly 83 year old father is having hernia surgery now before 0bamacare takes effect. I would expect that 0bamacare would only cover 'palliative care' for someone his age in this case, consigning him to a wheelchair for his drastically shortened life.

Fuck 0bamacare and the foolishness of those who voted for it.

45379. concerned - 11/26/2012 10:18:26 AM

My father lives a fully independent life and lives in and maintains his own home, btw. Fuck 0bamacare.

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