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45387. Wombat - 11/27/2012 9:26:11 PM Add Florida to Pennsylvania as admitted Republican efforts to suppress the vote. If a political party feels it has to resort to such strategies because they cannot otherwise win, it doesn't say much for their continued relevance. I'd be "concerned" about that, if I was a Republican. 45388. judithathome - 11/27/2012 9:44:22 PM Heh...me, too...but I am sure we'll hear nothing but confidence from that arena. 45389. anomie - 11/28/2012 5:51:29 AM Judith, Wombat, Thoughtful and others... I just want to express my admiration to ya'll for hanging in there with Concerned over the past few months. Don't know where you get such fortitude. As for me,I have pretty much dropped out of trying to talk with neoconservatives, and I seem to meet them everywhere. Some of them are hard working low-wage earners or living on SS ad medicare...I have given up on reasoning with them. I wish we had William F.Buckley types around like the good ole days.
To Concerned: I'm not dissing you personally, and it's been a fun couple months, but really... I hope this election signals the beginning of some good sense returning to the Republican mentality. You should get ahead of the crowd. 45390. Wombat - 11/28/2012 6:41:53 PM This from the deep thinkers and constitutional experts of the Tea Party, of which Concerned is a proud member.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/how-obama-can-be-stopped-in-electoral-college/
Note that World Net Daily's editors run a disclaimer because it is so wrong. 45391. Wombat - 11/28/2012 6:47:01 PM It appears that Mitt Romney was wrong about how 47% of the voters wouldn't vote for him. It is looking like Romney's share of the popular vote will be...wait for it...47%! 45392. concerned - 11/28/2012 8:34:17 PM Two-thirds of millionaires left Britain to avoid 50p tax rate
This was due to a top tax rate increase from 40% in 2009. So far, the increase has cost GB $7B in tax revenues, something that the Left is constitutionally unable to comprehend the possibility of occurring. Presumably the economy is deteriorating even faster in Hollande's France with his new 75% top marginal tax rate.
And from irs.gov, the number of millionaires in California has dropped from ~25,000 in 2000 to about ~6,000 today due to Democrat tax increases.
The above is a prescription for the eventual destruction of the middle class and a huge increase in poverty and dependence on state entitlements with only a few uber rich types like Buffett and Soros who do little for private sector employment remaining as part of the picture, something that any intelligent well intentioned person would reject as a matter of course.
The above is yet more proof that the Left is fundamentally incapable of comprehending even basic economic real world interactions. The best thing the US Left could do for everybody's well being is to concede the field to fiscal conservatives, including the Tea Party, but Lefty incompetence and ignorance is only exceeded by their prescriptive arrogance.
45393. concerned - 11/28/2012 9:16:13 PM The above gives a couple excellent illustrations of the Laffer Curve as it applies to real world economics right now.
I know how much the Left *hates* the Laffer Curve, but hate never solved any problems, Lefties. You just need to make your concepts comport with reality. 45394. concerned - 11/28/2012 9:21:59 PM Well, it seems Mote tax-mad vultures are actually salivating over taxing the small family owned farm into extinction. 45395. concerned - 11/28/2012 9:28:31 PM I'm telling people IRL about a chat group poster who hates the Tea Party so much that he equated them to Greeks not paying their taxes. It always elicits at least a good eye-rolling response. Thanks, Wombat, for that bit of insanity. 45396. Wombat - 11/28/2012 11:34:59 PM Just make sure that they remember to keep the government out of their medicare! God must love stupid people; he created enough of them, many of whom joined the Tea Party.
You going for the "Constitutional" option linked above to try and keep Obama from serving his second term? 45397. concerned - 11/28/2012 11:51:54 PM I don't 0bama is serving as a US president, anyway. 45398. judithathome - 11/28/2012 11:59:45 PM Well, that's what is known as "sauce for the goose". 45399. arkymalarky - 11/29/2012 1:29:18 AM Arrogant is rejecting democracy when you don't get your way. Delusional arrogance. 45400. concerned - 11/29/2012 1:45:06 AM "sauce for the goose"
So 0bama's legacy is 'payback'?
What bitter, small, people with shriveled consciences support 0bama. 45401. concerned - 11/29/2012 1:46:39 AM Darn - now you guys can't own a piece of original 0bama art:
 45402. concerned - 11/29/2012 1:48:14 AM Maybe I'll create '0bama in Deep Doo - Doo', with his head embedded in a piece of rubber dogshit and put it up on Ebay. $11,000 isn't anything to sneer at. 45403. concerned - 11/29/2012 1:59:31 AM Kaynsian Economics is still weilding models, confirmed by reality. Taxes must rise upon the rich or the debt will not reduce, and the deficit remains a tangible threat to future GDP growth.
This excerpt is completely wrong, except for the last 9 words.
Milton Friedman pointed out that Keynesian deficit spending stimulus has only limited usefulness, and that within a few months, the economy adapts itself so that that sort of stimulus policy loses all effectiveness past its initial application. So TARP in 2008 had a small stimulus effect, but no deficit driven policy has since that point in time.
Plus what the Democrats are doing doesn't even rise to the level of discredited Keynesianism. Keynes himself would have adamantly opposed the nearly $6 trillion dollars of Democrat deficit spending during the last four years, considering that the GDP has only grown less than $1 trillion dollars during that period. The effective economic 'multiplier' of 0bama era economic policies: Less than 20%.
Keynes required a deficit multiplier of over 100% for there to be any stimulus effect. But all this is surely way over the head of anybody who can't even spell his last name correctly.
45404. concerned - 11/29/2012 2:05:38 AM Re. 45386 -
Early voting has been curtailed where I live too, and nobody is claiming any evil partisan motive for that. Maybe it has to do with trying to save money since the economy has been so bad for the last four years. 45405. concerned - 11/29/2012 2:12:24 AM Do any of you Lefties have a clue how much revenue (at most) would be gathered if all the Democrat soak the rich tax plans were fully implemented?
About $30 billion dollars. In reality, the total revenue would probably drop because of the Laffer Curve effect, as they have in GB, France and California.
So, in Lefty world, are you going to persist in saying that best case $30 billion (probably more like a several tens of billion dollars cut in revenue) as a result of a top marginal rate tax increase is going to make a noticeable dent in a $1.2 trillion deficit?
Do you really enjoy sounding like effing morons and tools for power hungry Marxist demagogues? I guess so.
45406. concerned - 11/29/2012 2:34:45 AM The GOP swept in these mechanisms by dismantling the ruling governance. They regard these imaginary trillions as reality, and the hard work of unions muscle and sweat as parasitical.
What a load of crap. It was Clinton who repealed Glass-Steagal, and Democrats all down the line who broke down the safeguards against subprime mortgages and liar loans with the CRA and virtually total control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac fron the '90's until now. The second things started going south in the mortgage industry, all the lenders doing what Democrats wanted were suddenly vilifed as being 'predatory'.
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