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45568. concerned - 12/16/2012 6:21:42 AM She probably learned at Bill's and Monica's knees... 45569. judithathome - 12/16/2012 8:59:36 PM Can't you give your hatred a rest for a day or two? 45570. Wombat - 12/17/2012 1:48:35 AM Concerned should get psychiatric help... 45571. judithathome - 12/20/2012 9:11:55 PM John Boehner just signed his resignation papers with this move...he's putting the same bill that was refused last May to the House...the one where people with a million or more get at least a $50,000 dollar break on taxes. And those of us less lucky get to have our Social Security cut and our Medicare cut and kids get their school monies cut and poor people get their food stamps cut.
President Obama has vowed to veto this bill if it indeed passes the House vote.
And Iago Cantor is smiling all the way to the gavel. 45572. iiibbb - 12/21/2012 8:04:08 AM 
45573. judithathome - 12/21/2012 11:52:15 PM End of the year list:
In: gun control
Out: Wayne La Pierre
In: common sense
Out: John Boehner 45574. iiibbb - 12/22/2012 1:53:57 AM Between Feinstein and the NRA I honestly don't think there is a sane person making decisions wrt gun control on the national stage.
But if I were to give odds on whether a new AWB or a cop in every school would be more effective in preventing these events.... I'd pick the cop.
I have low confidence an effective proposal will be found. 45575. arkymalarky - 12/22/2012 6:42:47 PM No way on the cop. Too many places to cover and to easy to account for their presence and target them first in a pre planned attack. Plus, schools are no morecdangerous than malls, theaters or any other public places where numbers of peoplecare confined.
They will ban assault weapons again and the large clips if there's any sanity left in government. There's absolutely no valid use for them for civilians. They will also tighten background checks and close loopholes. They need to increase state and family control over those who are mentally ill and get them help. That needs to happen anyway. Too many people have been suffereing with zero help or recourse. 45576. judithathome - 12/22/2012 7:25:11 PM Hate to sound like Debbie Downer but I seriously doubt "they" will do anything...Congress is not going to move on one blessed thing that Obama proposes...the meme of "He's going to take our guns!" has already started and the shit-for-brains Republicans will never agree to anything that flies in the face of their "A" ratings from the NRA...that's "A" for asshole.
This country idolizes guns, violence, and swagger and the people that represent the voters are being purposely blind to what the electorate actually wants in service to the few who think we need to be armed to the teeth so we can kill other people...domestic and foreign.
The USA is 1% of the earth's population and we own 50% of the guns worldwide. 45577. judithathome - 12/22/2012 7:29:45 PM edit: 5% of the earth's population, 50% of the guns. 45578. iiibbb - 12/22/2012 11:58:32 PM The large capacity magazines really aren't going to effect much. I mean, ban them if it makes you feel better, but Cho did what he did at Virginia Tech without them.
You could also ban semi-autos, assuming people would comply, but you'd be surprised how fast a revolver can be reloaded with some relatively low-tech speed loaders.
I don't think cops in schools are the answer by any stretch--- I merely said that if I had to lay odds between a cop, and a ban on full-capacity magazines would be more effective as a deterrent... I'd pick the cop.
It seems that many of these types of shootings involve months of planning... so I'm not sure if there is a canned approach that would help. 45579. arkymalarky - 12/23/2012 1:14:35 AM It has to be comprehensive, but if Australia can do it it's worth a try. 45580. arkymalarky - 12/23/2012 1:16:54 AM And nothing is 100%. All or nothing almost always ends as nothing. I don't think folks will tolerate that any more. 45581. iiibbb - 12/23/2012 1:27:25 AM Whether gun control has done anything for their crime rates is questionable.
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=17847
http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp 45582. arkymalarky - 12/23/2012 1:33:57 AM Mass shootings is what people are mostly referring to. Our crime rate has been dropping steadily for a while. 45583. judithathome - 12/27/2012 2:18:43 AM Good lord....read this:
Dick Armey Brings Gun (or a guy with one) To Tea Party 45584. robertjayb - 12/27/2012 3:01:02 AM Barney Frank for the Kerry Senate seat. Pass it on...PBS newshour was the mentioner...A better placeholder than Dukakis, IMHO.
45585. arkymalarky - 12/27/2012 3:51:14 AM Would he do it? I think it's a great idea. 45586. robertjayb - 12/27/2012 5:09:21 AM Barney Frank for the Kerry Senate seat. Pass it on...PBS newshour was the mentioner...A better placeholder than Dukakis, IMHO.
45587. robertjayb - 12/27/2012 5:09:52 AM Barney Frank for the Kerry Senate seat. Pass it on...PBS newshour was the mentioner...A better placeholder than Dukakis, IMHO.
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