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45654. wabbit - 10/14/2013 11:42:18 PM Saw something on Facebook about a month ago. Usually I bypass all things political on FB, people have dug in and won't be budged and FB sucks at a place for discussion (not that there is much political "discussion" these days).
This one caught my eye and I think it is a great idea. Imagine it - all Congress critters, House and Senate, must wear uniforms. Said uniforms will resemble NASCAR driver uniforms, in that they will be covered with patches, sized according to campaign donations, showing who actually owns their votes. Maybe their cars should be similarly festooned. 45655. arkymalarky - 10/15/2013 2:49:06 AM Lovecthat idea. Big money has created a Frankenstein it can't control and as long as they have the power of the primary they will be a threat to their creators. The best hope for the GOP is a third party. 45656. judithathome - 10/15/2013 5:10:57 AM They...the Tea Party...see no value in becoming a third party as long as they can control the Republican Party to the extent that they have in this shutdown matter.
They're getting exactly what they want...the government in chaos.
A bunch of thugs have a leader and they've got the Republicans exactly where they want them: scared shitless of a primary. They've proven that they don't need the Senate OR the Presidency to bring about what they want.
If the House HAD any balls, the Tea Party now has them in a vise. 45657. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 2:27:13 AM Senator Heidi Heitcamp, ND. Love her. The GOP should look to some of the conservative Dems as an example of ,he type of candidates to recruit and cut the Tea Party loose. Which may be exactly what happens. Freedomworks is already threatening primaries. 45658. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 2:30:46 AM with all the talk of holding the government hostage, what's being held hostage is any Republican who doesn't kowtow to the 20 percent Tea Party contingent. They have to get away from that, or they will lose no matter how gerrymandered they are and no matter how packed toward the right wing the federal and supreme courts are. 45659. judithathome - 10/17/2013 7:39:17 AM The long Republican snit fest is over...House voted 285 to stop the madness.
And at only 24 billion in lost monetary productivity, who can say if it was worth it or not? S*
*sarcasm 45660. iiibbb - 10/17/2013 7:17:22 PM They built it
That's what they say... 45661. judithathome - 10/17/2013 8:25:25 PM That link doesn't work, 3i3b.. 45662. Jenerator - 10/17/2013 10:24:06 PM I just want to thank all of you Obama voters for helping to raise my insurance costs and for making my and my children's lives more difficult.
My insurance premium is set to increase by 17% (and that doesn't cover copays and deductibles, etc.) I have to switch carriers to one that isn't accepted by the various specialists mys on has to see.
My dentist and my gynecologist don't take the new provider either.
I hope you all get to enjoy this too.
Fun times. 45663. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 10:48:05 PM I want to thank Tea Partiers for seeing that people got furloughed and America lost 24 billion dollars and .5% GDP in 17days. I thought the fun times were the last two weeks when the government was shut down and our credit and economy put in jeopardy. I think they need to rename the Tea Party the Pity Party.
It's like one of my students said her grandmother told her: if Obamacare fails let it fail on its own merit. If you have the guts and patriotism to let the Democratic American System work, then if you're right that will reveal itself soon enough; certainly sooner than NCLB, Iraq, and Medicare Part D did. Obamacare is not cover for the price gouging of the insurance companies though, which is happening here in Arkansas as well. I don't have a lot of patience for people who are more than willing to let the whole system blow up over things that at least they have some degree of choice over. Plenty of working people haven't had the burden of choosing between insurance policies at any level. It's fine and normal to be unhappy when things don't go your way, but to make everyone around you suffer until you get your way is beyond pathetic. of course I'm sure you're not in that bunch Jen, but it's the counter to your expressed appreciation over Obamacare. 45664. iiibbb - 10/17/2013 11:10:54 PM Jen--
if Republicans would come to their senses I might vote for them again. As it is, I'd rather have you pay 17% more for health insurance than live in a place where gays can't marry, science is discounted, alternative energy is scoffed at, the environment doesn't matter, and they're not honest about unfunded wars. 45665. judithathome - 10/17/2013 11:33:14 PM Why don't you blame Rick Perry, Jen? He's the one who refused to participate fully in the ACA. 45666. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 11:43:56 PM In AR we've been dealing with this awhile. Our insurance has always been worse than other public employees in AR and most other states. This year it's going up 40-50% and people are leaving the system and making it worse. To insure your family is approaching $1000 a month. I think it's over $800 a month now. 45667. Wombat - 10/17/2013 11:59:59 PM As if insurance rates have never gone up before the ACA. Really Jen. 45668. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:03 AM Ours has always gone up every time we've gotten a raise, over 40 years now. 45669. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:35 AM 30. Just feels like 40. 45670. Ms. No - 10/18/2013 12:58:32 AM I refuse to pay more even if I can. Anybody who can't afford it can go starve in the street -- and their children with them. Fuck all those little children who are a drain on my disposable income. Let 'em starve and be illiterate and die of preventable childhood diseases.
If they survive, I'm perfectly willing to pay to have them incarcerated, but don't ask me to chip in for textbooks. If they wanted to live a decent life they should've been born into a family with more resources just like I was. 45671. wabbit - 10/18/2013 1:31:30 AM My health insurance went from about $520/month to over $750/month in two years, while Blue Cross was claiming rates were not going to increase more than 5%. And that is just for me, $2000 deductible, no dental. That was three years ago.
Of course, I am one of those system-sucking losers with a pre-existing condition, so there's that.
Ms. No, I love you, LOL! 45672. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 1:44:30 AM whew! For a minute there ms no I thought you were going to say abort them. 45673. judithathome - 10/18/2013 1:50:00 AM No, THAT'S a SIN!!!!
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