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45660. iiibbb - 10/17/2013 7:17:22 PM They built it
That's what they say... 45661. judithathome - 10/17/2013 8:25:25 PM That link doesn't work, 3i3b.. 45662. Jenerator - 10/17/2013 10:24:06 PM I just want to thank all of you Obama voters for helping to raise my insurance costs and for making my and my children's lives more difficult.
My insurance premium is set to increase by 17% (and that doesn't cover copays and deductibles, etc.) I have to switch carriers to one that isn't accepted by the various specialists mys on has to see.
My dentist and my gynecologist don't take the new provider either.
I hope you all get to enjoy this too.
Fun times. 45663. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 10:48:05 PM I want to thank Tea Partiers for seeing that people got furloughed and America lost 24 billion dollars and .5% GDP in 17days. I thought the fun times were the last two weeks when the government was shut down and our credit and economy put in jeopardy. I think they need to rename the Tea Party the Pity Party.
It's like one of my students said her grandmother told her: if Obamacare fails let it fail on its own merit. If you have the guts and patriotism to let the Democratic American System work, then if you're right that will reveal itself soon enough; certainly sooner than NCLB, Iraq, and Medicare Part D did. Obamacare is not cover for the price gouging of the insurance companies though, which is happening here in Arkansas as well. I don't have a lot of patience for people who are more than willing to let the whole system blow up over things that at least they have some degree of choice over. Plenty of working people haven't had the burden of choosing between insurance policies at any level. It's fine and normal to be unhappy when things don't go your way, but to make everyone around you suffer until you get your way is beyond pathetic. of course I'm sure you're not in that bunch Jen, but it's the counter to your expressed appreciation over Obamacare. 45664. iiibbb - 10/17/2013 11:10:54 PM Jen--
if Republicans would come to their senses I might vote for them again. As it is, I'd rather have you pay 17% more for health insurance than live in a place where gays can't marry, science is discounted, alternative energy is scoffed at, the environment doesn't matter, and they're not honest about unfunded wars. 45665. judithathome - 10/17/2013 11:33:14 PM Why don't you blame Rick Perry, Jen? He's the one who refused to participate fully in the ACA. 45666. arkymalarky - 10/17/2013 11:43:56 PM In AR we've been dealing with this awhile. Our insurance has always been worse than other public employees in AR and most other states. This year it's going up 40-50% and people are leaving the system and making it worse. To insure your family is approaching $1000 a month. I think it's over $800 a month now. 45667. Wombat - 10/17/2013 11:59:59 PM As if insurance rates have never gone up before the ACA. Really Jen. 45668. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:03 AM Ours has always gone up every time we've gotten a raise, over 40 years now. 45669. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 12:05:35 AM 30. Just feels like 40. 45670. Ms. No - 10/18/2013 12:58:32 AM I refuse to pay more even if I can. Anybody who can't afford it can go starve in the street -- and their children with them. Fuck all those little children who are a drain on my disposable income. Let 'em starve and be illiterate and die of preventable childhood diseases.
If they survive, I'm perfectly willing to pay to have them incarcerated, but don't ask me to chip in for textbooks. If they wanted to live a decent life they should've been born into a family with more resources just like I was. 45671. wabbit - 10/18/2013 1:31:30 AM My health insurance went from about $520/month to over $750/month in two years, while Blue Cross was claiming rates were not going to increase more than 5%. And that is just for me, $2000 deductible, no dental. That was three years ago.
Of course, I am one of those system-sucking losers with a pre-existing condition, so there's that.
Ms. No, I love you, LOL! 45672. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 1:44:30 AM whew! For a minute there ms no I thought you were going to say abort them. 45673. judithathome - 10/18/2013 1:50:00 AM No, THAT'S a SIN!!!! 45674. robertjayb - 10/18/2013 3:43:19 AM Passing through Arkansas last weekend I picked up an "Arkansas Times" with a cover story headed "Teacher Insurance is Broken. Can it be Fixed?" Inside, the article is labeled "Suffer the Teachers" and the subhead reads "Without an infusion of cash and a structural overhaul, the public school employee insurance plan won't survive."
Happy day's, Arky. 45675. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 2:13:41 PM yep. And our democratic Governor Mike Beebe has said there's no point in calling a session to deal with it because the Republican legislature doesn't have the will. And we can thank our Democratic governor jim guy tucker for the whole mess in the first place which separated us from the rest of the public insurance system. None of this has anything to do with Obamacare and neither does Jen's problem. She can come to Arkansas and find out what a real mess in the healthcare system is like without even thinking about Obamacare, since none of this has anything to do with it. Right now it provides the only possible alternative I will have if our insurance goes belly up. She was just looking to get in a gig with regard to the govern ment shutdown the whack job Teaparty started,which frankly turned around and bit her. I think it's time the GOP dumps some tea.
on another note, I really wish you would come by one of these days on your way through. We have a porch that doesn't have holes in it or anything. Although stan did have to shoot a skunk the other day, because it was chasing our dog in broad daylight. I can't imagine what that was about (rabies). 45676. arkymalarky - 10/18/2013 2:23:53 PM when Mose was 21 and commuting to college from Hot Springs on a bad and dangerous road I couldn't cover her on my insurance anymore, so I went to get it from a private provider of BCBS, and she was denied. I had to go through a lot of hoops to get the reasons in writing, fearing she had something serious I wasn't aware of, and it turns out it was nothing. Allergies and acid reflux. That's what got her denied. I have very little patience with the whine about Obamavare now. Had we had it at that time she wouldn't have been dropped at 21 and then denied coverage. 45677. judithathome - 10/18/2013 7:42:31 PM One of the saving graces (and there are MANY) of the ACA is the child is covered under the parents' policy until 26...this was to allow kids like Mose to be protected while going to school.
The ACA doesn't affect US but if it DID, I would certainly appreciate the existing conditions part of it.
I still don't understand how Jen can heap so much abuse on Obama when her situation was brought on by Rick Perry but there ya go.... 45678. judithathome - 10/21/2013 7:47:15 PM It's started...twice already this morning: talking heads referring to Hillary's health. One even tied in BILL'S health.
They're running scared...you'd think they would be more concerned with the threat of Ted Cruz. 45679. wabbit - 10/21/2013 9:55:29 PM Did you see the 60 Minutes piece on Dick Cheney and his various heart interventions and recent transplant? I wonder where his health insurance comes from...
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