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46228. Trillium - 2/25/2016 4:05:35 AM

The Turley article linked above quotes Chris Hedges:
"There is a desire felt by tens of millions of Americans...known as the Christian right, to destroy the intellectual and scientific rigor of the Enlightenment".. [emphasis added]

I have listened in several classes to respected university professors, Marxists who do not identify with "The Right" at all -- dismissing "Western Civilization" and "The Enlightenment" as something that they do not value. These educators usually promote "Eastern", "African", or "tribal" civilizations instead of anything "Western".

Personally, I like the changes that were wrought by The Enlightenment, and I don't want to see those values discarded: freedom of choice, autonomy of individuals (especially females) outside family/tribe; separation of religion and state.

I think Hedges has a blind spot about the non-Right population. There are plenty of people who prefer emotion, trance and drama to logical thinking, and this preference is not restricted to the Christian Right

46229. arkymalarky - 2/25/2016 5:51:48 AM

My mother is VERY concerned about the Dominionists.

46230. iiibbb - 2/25/2016 5:49:05 PM

Well, as a dominionist would say, she should make somebody a sandwich.

46231. winstonsmith - 2/25/2016 8:27:47 PM

Re, 26214, Ms. No - Yes, I think if Bernie were running for VP with Clinton it could also help some to get young people out. Although, sadly, the turn out for the Democrat primaries has been lower than when Obama was running. Republicans are just more angry after 7+ years of Obama.

46232. robertjayb - 2/25/2016 8:54:19 PM

With Sandoval out, who is in?

46233. judithathome - 2/25/2016 10:35:51 PM

Will it realy matter?

46234. judithathome - 2/25/2016 10:36:05 PM

really....

46235. winstonsmith - 2/26/2016 5:42:04 PM

Lindsey Graham:

"If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you,"

46236. judithathome - 2/27/2016 8:50:06 PM

Also from Lindsay: "My party has gone batshit crazy."

46237. judithathome - 2/27/2016 8:50:40 PM

Marco Rubio is evidently NOT a student of political campaigns...he is probaby too young to remember Dan Quayle's gaff of correcting someone's spelling on camera.

Yesterday he ridiculed Trump's spelling of "choked"...which Trump spelled correctly...by saying to an adoring crowd "He spelled it 'c-h-o-k-e-d" and it's supposed to be 'c-h-o-a-k-e-d'."

Ummmmm....Marco....no.

46238. arkymalarky - 2/27/2016 10:11:51 PM

Man, Hillary is doing so great. It's a completely different candidate from 2008, & I love it. I saw a handmade sign that I want for a bumper sticker: Hillyes!

46239. judithathome - 2/27/2016 10:23:43 PM

Love it!

46240. iiibbb - 2/27/2016 11:07:00 PM

Hillary is a better candidate than last time for sure.

46241. winstonsmith - 2/28/2016 1:00:33 AM

I think she is campaigning very well but it is discouraging to me when I hear so much criticism of her from both the left and the right. The criticism is often inaccurate and undeserved.

46242. arkymalarky - 2/28/2016 2:06:18 AM

I've never cared for Melissa Harris Perry. I always see her as being more focused on how she speaks and presents than who she's talking to or what she's talking about, which may not be fair, but her hissy fit doesn't help her image with me. On the other hand, I absolutely love joy Reid, so I'd love to see her slide into that spot. I hated to see her show get cancelled.

46243. arkymalarky - 2/28/2016 3:46:59 AM

Just wow. Night and day 2008 to now. Super Tuesday is going to be very interesting. I'm just disappointed that Hillary and Bernie didn't go after each other's hair and makeup.

46244. Ms. No - 2/29/2016 4:09:31 AM

Winston,

I'm with you. My liberal friends who are anti-Hillary just have a hate-on for her. One guy I was talking to said he couldn't respect her because she didn't leave her husband after he cheated on her. Another friend - female - couldn't point to anything specific, she just doesn't like her.

This friend and I were talking and she's very pro-Bernie and may actually register to vote this year for the very first time just so she can vote for him. I told her I thought Bernie was a cool dude saying a lot of things that need to be said but he'd be a lousy president because he does't have any real plans for how he's going to single-handedly overcome a hostile Congress when Obama hasn't been able to do so in 8 years.

I also mentioned that I was worried for the Dem's chances because there are so many Bernie supporters who are saying if he doesn't get the nomination they just won't vote.

She then says "Who says that? Where are you hearing this?" and I couldn't point to any specific time I'd heard it in some reputable place other than just overheard hipster conversations.

And not five minutes later she said, I shit you not, "If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I just won't vote."
It took her all of 15 seconds to realize what she'd said to me. I very politely did not rub it in.

46245. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 4:56:45 AM

If Trump gets the GOP nomination, as he almost certainly will, they'll vote.

46246. Ms. No - 2/29/2016 5:36:25 AM

They'd fucking better.

My Senior Gov't/Econ class just held our first ever Voter Awareness Event on Friday. They're pretty fired up.

46247. arkymalarky - 2/29/2016 6:18:05 AM

I've never seen anything like it. Can't wait to see what happens Tues. Wish I was still teaching history and gvt

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