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46500. arkymalarky - 9/19/2016 3:25:56 AM I think that the ground game is going to help with a lot of issues that you reference. I'm going to a meeting of Democrats Thursday and see what they're up to here. 46501. judithathome - 9/19/2016 7:48:04 PM The young are not satisfied with Clinton and could end up with Trump because they are unrealistic.
See Bernie Trump and their flocking to him...he SEEMED unrealistic to me but his policies seem like a positive, sane REALITY to me now compared to Trump's fear mongering and dog whistles.
Trump's "fans" are hypnotized by his flash but there is no substance there. It's like seeing a magician shoot fire out of his fingertips..we're convinced it's MAGIC and we don't notice him wiping the tell-tale black powder off his hands.
And anyhow, most of the "youth" of today are so used to getting everythng they want due to being told how special they are that they couldn't handle being told they are wrong about anything. 46502. winstonsmith - 9/20/2016 1:26:16 AM Arrky, yeah, guns are a big motivator in Oregon, as well. Yes, I agree the ground game should help. With all the factors in play though, things are pretty unpredictable, at the moment.
Judith, it does worry me that some young people are unwilling to:
A. Consider the idea that much of what they have been told about Clnton may be untrue.
B. Reconcile themselves to making Choices when neither choice is exactly what they want.
C. Recognize how much progress has been made and how Clinton will keep moving toward progress and Trump will block and reverse it.
46503. arkymalarky - 9/20/2016 2:14:06 AM Young people need to be told loudly and often the most of Bernie Sanders ideas got adopted in the Democratic platform, and that in 2000 it didn't work to go with a third party and it would be disastrous this time as well. That's where a lot of the dangerous for young people. This made me feel better though:
http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Honda_Pilot/2016/specs/Pilot-AWD-4dr-Elite-with-DVD-Rear-Entertainment-System-and-Navigation-378789/ 46504. arkymalarky - 9/20/2016 2:17:12 AM My parents and I are going to the Democratic party meeting on Thursday, and I'm really excited about it. If Obama does what he did Saturday night at the Congressional Black Caucus dinner, that is the best thing that could happen for election day. And Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are doing so much. That, and as soon as the trumpster gets any slight indication he's in the lead he starts acting like an idiot again. Between Hillary's pneumonia and Trump's teleprompter, this is really looking bad, but he's back to his SOS and Hillary obviously just fine physically. 46505. arkymalarky - 9/20/2016 2:23:18 AM And I'm busy at work, busy at home, and I'm about to be a grandma, and I'm just not going to spend the next two months despairing over this election. I'm going to the meetings, talking to people, I will take the day off and drive people and make phone calls and whatever I have to do, and then vote. That's all I can do. If everybody else does the same, I think we'll be all right. That assumes the media's going to continue doing its job like it has been ever since trump made chumps out of them all with a publicized Hotel tour. It's all going to come down to turn out and ground game.
The biggest possible slap in the face to the African-American Community would be to elect a birther-in-chief to succeed our first black president. 46506. arkymalarky - 9/20/2016 2:25:06 AM Ha! That link makes me feel better, too, but i meant to link this:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
The other one is my dream Grandma car. 46507. iiibbb - 9/20/2016 6:04:06 PM Let me just say that talking politics with this whole Hillary is as bad as Trump crowd is fucking maddening... not the trolls... the <30y crowd that actually believes it.
"[Don't like climate change? Well maybe the Democrats should have thought of that when they made Clinton their candidate]"
"[You're just trying to scare me about the nuclear risk. Clinton is the real war hawk. Democrats should have thought of that when they made Clinton their candidate]" 46508. judithathome - 9/20/2016 6:28:59 PM Not that polls mean anything but Hillary jumped 5 points ahead since two weeks ago.
Even sick in bed and off the campaign trail for 4 days, she beats Trump in a new poll by 5 points and he has been on TV bloviating sometimes three times a day and tweeting incessantly the entire time.
46509. judithathome - 9/20/2016 8:22:56 PM Okay, in the old adage "The acorn doesn't fall far from the poisoned and bigoted oak"...this Trump Jr. Skittles trope is just digusting.
Trump Jr. Compares Skittles to Syrian Refugees 46510. judithathome - 9/20/2016 8:54:02 PM Here is really excellent rebuttal (from a poster on my forum in Talkalot) to Little Trump's ridiculous Skittles comments:
IN REALITY, statistically there are very few terrorist attacks compared to the millions of Syrians so a more True example would be 3 poison treats in a Swimming Pool of Skittles to represent the millions in Syria. And you can't just walk away, because then one Skittle says "America doesn't care" forms the Islamic State, and invades the Swimming Pool of Iraq Skittles next door! Then you have to immediately put barriers in the Iraq swimming pool so it doesn't spread, fish out the 125,000 Christian Skittles, and then slowly move in the barriers in that Iraqi Pool of Skittles before you can even get to the Syrian Pool of Skittles, which is really controlled by former Optometrist and current Dictator of the Swimming Pool of Syrian Skittles Bashir al Assad, who is working with Vladimir Putin, ruler of the Olympic Swimming pool of Russian Skittles to whom Trump probably owes money to. Oh, and while you were doing that, the terrorists really came from the swimming pools full of skittles for Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and Saudi Arabia.
So what was this about skittles, Donald Jr? 46511. arkymalarky - 9/20/2016 9:30:15 PM He's getting most everything he posts from alt right and white nationalist sutes. TPM has an interesting article on that today. The Skittles thing came from them. 46512. iiibbb - 9/21/2016 1:19:23 AM J@H
I rad today that skittles was co-opted by the alt-right after the Trayvon Martin shooting. It's apparently a slur against people of color and meant to throw salt in wounds. 46513. iiibbb - 9/21/2016 4:42:36 PM On another place I got in this strange back and fourth with about skittles with an obtuse clinton=trump voter and my finale was this haiku.
Let Trump eat Snickers
Nuclear fire will rain
Vote for her you twats 46514. iiibbb - 9/21/2016 4:42:48 PM I'm rather proud of it. 46515. judithathome - 9/21/2016 7:42:41 PM Very, very good!! but middle line is one syllable short for traditional haiku. However, flexibility in all things rules! 46516. iiibbb - 9/22/2016 5:47:57 PM Nu-cle-ar..... I was being particularly ironic. 46517. judithathome - 9/22/2016 7:56:16 PM I get that...but it is still a line with SIX syllables instead of seven. The scansion of haiku is three lines, 5-7-5. That's all I'm saying.
I think it was very clever...and was just making an observation. 46518. iiibbb - 9/22/2016 8:15:15 PM Nu-cle-ar fi-re will rain 46519. iiibbb - 9/22/2016 8:16:07 PM I miss you guys, but I'm having some fun elsewhere.
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