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46714. winstonsmith - 11/16/2016 11:21:49 PM

My 16 year old daughter participated in the high school walkout and protest march in downtown Portland. I hate how conservative relatives of mine have been posting things on Facebook about how the kids are a bunch of ungrateful slackers who can't even vote. My daughter is a straight-A student who is in choir, the debate team, all honors classes. She works her ass off and will be a hardworking asset to this society. She was one of the students who gave a speech downtown at Pioneer Square. She understands that Trump won the election and will be President. She is unhappy with many of the inflammatory things he said during the campaign and is giving voice to her concerns. It's true, she was unable to vote in this election and it is frustrating for her. She will for sure vote in the next one though.

46715. judithathome - 11/16/2016 11:28:40 PM

Props to your daughter and tell her (which I am sure you HAVE) to keep fighting the fight!

These kids like her are going to inherit this country and they definitely have a right to be worried about what is going to be "left of it".

46716. winstonsmith - 11/16/2016 11:48:15 PM

Thanks Judith!

Hi Jen!

46717. Trillium - 11/17/2016 7:07:31 PM

The following is long, and reading it will take more than the usual attention span.

Consider the following link (written by someone working in mental health who clearly doesn't like Trump, yet remained relatively rational)

Slatestarcodex: You Are Still Crying Wolf

46718. judithathome - 11/17/2016 7:53:15 PM

and reading it will take more than the usual attention span.

...I guess I'd better just skip it then...probably far too complicated for me to grasp!

Sheesh

If you could, please refrain from posting War and Peace. I get all those Russian names sooo mixed up...

46719. Trillium - 11/18/2016 9:19:48 PM

No problem. Here's something much shorter, more succinct, laced with plenty of profanity. Anti-Trump so most here are allowed to listen to it

British comedian Jonathan Pie

46720. arkymalarky - 11/18/2016 11:32:26 PM

I always google Pepe's link sources before clicking, but the first was posted on slate's forum under a historian's piece on Hitler. Evidently it's being disseminated for some reason. And we all know where 1st amendment suppression will come from, so no need to be sarcastic about what's allowed reading here.

http://www.vox.com/2016/4/18/11434098/alt-right-explained?0p19G=c

There's you a long article to read.

46721. Trillium - 11/19/2016 4:53:29 AM

Already read it back in August. The term "Alt Right" was made up by Clinton's team and it's a fail.

But here's something to sing if you like the sound of "Alt Right"

Alt Right

46722. arkymalarky - 11/19/2016 5:43:32 AM

No. The term alt right was not made up by the Clinton team.

46723. judithathome - 11/19/2016 1:15:37 PM

Read it and weep, Trillium: here is the truth from the site run by one of the biggest purveyors of it, Roger Bannon, the very definition of the thing. Link*

*I suggest everyone take a shower after reading...it's Brietbart.

46724. arkymalarky - 11/19/2016 5:15:08 PM

People need to flag false news whenever and wherever they see it

46725. judithathome - 11/19/2016 7:26:15 PM

That is becoming harder and harder to do...most people get their news from Facebook today and many of the sources they read/cite are fake copies of real news sources that have been cloned and made to "look" real.

46726. arkymalarky - 11/19/2016 7:45:34 PM

FB is working on a new policy right now, but it's closing the barn door after the horse got out. Better late, tho.

46727. judithathome - 11/19/2016 10:16:11 PM

Yeah...but you can't "unhear" what you've already heard....

46728. Ms. No - 11/21/2016 2:14:47 AM

Wikipedia on coining term "Alt Right"

Coining of the term
In November 2008, Paul Gottfried addressed the H. L. Mencken Club about what he called "the alternative right".[30] In 2009, two more posts at Taki's Magazine, by Patrick J. Ford and Jack Hunter, further discussed the alternative right.[31] The term, however, is most commonly attributed to Richard B. Spencer, president of the National Policy Institute and founder of Alternative Right.[7][32]



And the Anti-Defamation League corroborates the origin of the term:

HOW DID THE TERM ALT RIGHT ORIGINATE?

White supremacist Richard Spencer, who runs the National Policy Institute, a tiny white supremacist think tank, coined the term “Alternative Right” as the name for an online publication that debuted in 2010. The online publication changed hands in 2013 when Spencer shut it down. It was soon re-launched by Colin Liddell and Andy Nowicki, who were former writers for Alternative Right. Spencer went on to found another online journal, Radix. Both Alternative Right and Radix act as forums for racists, anti-Semites and others who identify with the Alt Right.

The term “Alt Right” is not the only term used to describe this movement. Some of its adherents use other, similar phrases, such as the “New Right” and the “Dissident Right.” They all refer to the same race-infused brand of extreme conservatism.

46729. arkymalarky - 11/21/2016 3:38:17 AM

Trillium knows the source of alt right and knows she's lying. That wasn't something that was passed to her as misinformation. She's obviously well aware of the alt right sites and leaders and links them regularly here. I don't know exactly what her purpose is in a forum so small, but it's pretty obvious that that's what she's been doing since she's been here.

46730. Trillium - 11/21/2016 8:31:45 PM

Ms. No, your Wiki link goes to a Wiki page that says "Bad Title" and provides no information. If you can re-post the Wiki page I'm interested to read it.

I read all sorts of sources. And I don't feel the need to "take a bath" or get a priestly dispensation if I read something that is at odds with popular narratives.

46731. Trillium - 11/21/2016 8:33:51 PM

Rude, Arky. No, I'm not "lying" -- although you're projecting.

I'm interested in the truth, and have found that truth is often twisted when people get away with doing that, because they have gotten into a position of unchallenged power and have unbridled egos.

Mr. Pie has a message for you, but you are dodging it. That's your responsibility.

46732. judithathome - 11/21/2016 9:44:18 PM

I hope that percentage of blacks who voted for Trump are happy with his appointment of Jeff Sessions, one of the most racist men in Congress.

46733. arkymalarky - 11/21/2016 9:58:36 PM

No again. You did not and do not think the alt right term came from the Clinton team.

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