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5208. jexster - 10/15/2006 11:14:16 PM

And some are at night when COLD is the least of a white man's worry in DEEtroit

5209. wabbit - 10/16/2006 1:14:40 AM

James Blake became the first player since Thomas Enqvist in 1996 to defend his title at the Royal Tennis Hall in SwedenJames Blake defeated Jarkko Nieminen 6-4, 6-2 Sunday to win the Stockholm Open for the second straight year. The second-seeded American became the first player since Thomas Enqvist in 1996 to defend his title at the Royal Tennis Hall. The 26-year-old Blake also improved his chances of reaching the season-ending Tennis Masters Cup next month in Shanghai, China. He is sixth in the standings with 410 points, with the top eight qualifying. It was the fifth ATP title of the season for Blake, tying him for second with Rafael Nadal. Only Roger Federer (nine) has won more.

American teenager Vania King rallied past Tamarine Tanasugarn 2-6, 6-4, 6-4 Sunday to win the Bangkok Open and her first WTA title. King used aggressive groundstrokes and came back from a 2-4 deficit in the third set to win in her first final. She is the first 17-year-old from the United States to win a WTA title since Serena Williams won the U.S. Open in 1999.

5210. wabbit - 10/16/2006 1:14:58 AM

SCAT DADDYTrainer Todd Pletcher broke what he once considered an unattainable record, earning his 93rd stakes win of the season with Scat Daddy, a three-quarter-length winner of the $400,000 Champagne Stakes (G1) on Saturday at Belmont Park. One day after equaling the record for stakes wins in a season set by former mentor D. Wayne Lukas, Pletcher broke it when Scat Daddy dug in with determination and overtook two foes in the stretch. Pletcher also has 52 graded stakes wins this season, one short of Lukas's record.

Martin Schwartz's Gorella (Fr) won her third straight start as she rebuffed a game rally by Karen's Caper in deep stretch to win the $400,000 First Lady Stakes (G2) on Saturday at Keeneland Race Course. The four-year-old Grape Tree Road (GB) filly, who finished third behind Artie Schiller and Leroidesanimaux in last year's Breeders' Cup Mile (G1) at Belmont Park, could be headed for another shot at the Mile or a tough test against the best of her own division in the Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (G1) following the impressive performance. Trained by Patrick Biancone, Gorella entered off back-to-back victories in the Just a Game Handicap (G2) on June 10 at Belmont and the Beverly D. Stakes (G1) on August 12 at Arlington Park.

Trainer Michael Stidham was thinking Breeders' Cup following Sutra's impressive 1 3/4-length victory in the $400,000 Frizette Stakes (G1) on Saturday at Belmont Park. In only her third start, the dark bay or brown Meadowlake filly has won a Grade 1 race, finished second in a Grade 3, and proven to Stidham that she can compete with the best in her division.

Jockey Carlos Marquez Jr. turned Vacare loose in the stretch, guiding the Lear Fan filly to a half-length win in Saturday's $500,000 Queen Elizabeth II Challenge Cup Stakes (G1) at Keeneland Race Course. Winning trainer Chris Block said that he wanted Vacare to settle near the back of the field, but the bay filly wanted to go to the front early in the 1 1/8-mile race.

5211. wabbit - 10/16/2006 1:15:14 AM

Shut out of the end zone through the first five games of the season, Joe Horn did two shoulder-shaking end zone dances after catches of 14 and 48 yards, then John Carney hit a 31-yard field goal as time expired to lift the New Orleans Saints to a 27-24 victory over the Eagles on Sunday. New Orleans (5-1) now enters its bye week in first place in the NFC South. If any are still doubting the surprising start of a revamped New Orleans team that went 3-13 last season, the Eagles, who were favored on the road coming in, can't be counted among them.

Jake Delhomme threw for a career-high 365 yards and two touchdowns, and Carolina slipped past the Baltimore Ravens 23-21 Sunday for its fourth straight win. After Ravens quarterback Steve McNair left with a concussion and sprained neck in the first quarter, Kyle Boller took over. A starter for three years before being displaced by McNair, Boller threw three touchdown passes to provide Baltimore (4-2) with its biggest scoring output since Week 2. But every time Boller and the Ravens did something right, Delhomme answered. His favorite target was Steve Smith, who had eight catches for 189 yards and a score.

Terrell Owens capped his turnaround from local scourge to fan favorite by catching three second-half touchdowns, taking the Dallas Cowboys from a tight game against the Houston Texans to an easy 34-6 victory Sunday.

NFL scores

5212. jexster - 10/16/2006 4:26:33 AM

Talkin to a Giants fan down to the corner store just now

"How bout Deetroit! Boy I hope they win. That's the poorest most disgusting city in the country. They need it"

5213. wonkers2 - 10/16/2006 5:23:53 AM

Jexter, have you actually ever been to Detroit? I doubt is or you wouldn't make such ignorant remarks. By the way, when you grew up down on a Louisiana bayou, how old were you before you got your first pair of shoes?

5214. wabbit - 10/16/2006 3:07:28 PM

Miami and Florida International engaged in a bench-clearing brawl in the first-ever meeting between the neighboring schools

After reviewing a sideline-clearing brawl between players from Miami and Florida International, officials from both schools and their conferences on Sunday announced the suspension of 31 players -- 13 from the Hurricanes, and 18 from FIU.

Each suspended player must sit out his team's next game for taking part in the ugly melee that marred the teams' Saturday matchup. Miami plays at Duke on Saturday, FIU plays at Alabama Oct. 28.

More sanctions are still possible, officials from both schools said Sunday night.

"These suspensions send a clear and definitive message that this type of behavior will not be tolerated," said Atlantic Coast Conference Commissioner John Swofford...
Are these people serious? A clear and definitive message consists of sitting out one game? The players are laughing their asses off in the locker room. One game, big deal. Sitting out the rest of the season should be the minimum for some of them.

5215. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:18:04 PM

Mike TysonPlease, someone save us from this jackass.

Mike Tyson said fans should not expect much of a fight when he steps back into the ring.

But the 40-year-old former heavyweight champ promised an entertaining show Friday night when he launches the "Mike Tyson's World Tour" in Youngstown.

At a news conference at an Italian restaurant, Tyson said he would likely go just four rounds and that future stops on the tour might include bouts with women, possibly professional boxer Ann Wolfe.

Wolfe, from Waco, Texas, is 21-1 with 15 knockouts.

"She's such a prominent, dominant woman in the boxing field," Tyson said.

When asked if he was joking about fighting women, Tyson said, "I'm very serious."

Russ Young, a promoter for Wolfe, said such a bout will never happen.

"That's the first we've heard of it," Young said. "No state would sanction that. She would be outweighed by 60 to 70 pounds. Ann would never entertain the idea." ...
Don't count on that bit about no state sanctioning the fight. Hopefully she still has enough brain cells intact to say no.



Rex GrossmanSix turnovers, 3 points on offense, and somehow the Chicago Bears are still unbeaten. Somehow, some way, the Bears rallied from 20 points down at halftime and escaped with a 24-23 victory in Arizona on Monday night, leaving the shellshocked Cardinals to ponder yet another excruciating late-game collapse.

The Bears are off to their best start in 20 years at 6-0. For that, they can thank their defense, punt returner Devin Hester and Arizona kicker Neil Rackers. Rex Grossman gets no credit for this one...



The University of Miami extended the suspension of one player and said further disciplinary measures will be taken in the wake of a sideline-clearing brawl with Florida International. Sophomore safety Anthony Reddick was suspended indefinitely following further consultation Monday with the Atlantic Coast Conference, the school said. Reddick charged across the field, helmet raised over his head, and slammed it into an opposing player during the melee.

Meanwhile, the Golden Panthers took a much harsher stance — dismissing two players, Chris Smith and Marshall McDuffie Jr., and extending the suspensions of all other 16 sanctioned players indefinitely.

Much more appropriate, if the schools stick to their guns. I hope Reddick isn't the only player Miami is looking at for extended suspension.

5216. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:18:29 PM

Another rain delayThe starting pitchers are rested and the days off are done. Now, the NL championship series comes down to a best-of-three. Daylong rain caused Game 5 between New York and St. Louis to be postponed Monday, meaning Mets lefty Tom Glavine and Jeff Weaver of the Cardinals will start Tuesday night on full rest. The teams are tied at two games each in the best-of-seven playoff. Game 5 was rescheduled for 8:19 p.m. EDT at Busch Stadium. For the second time in the NLCS, the clubs will travel without a day off. They'll play Game 6 at Shea Stadium in New York on Wednesday night, as scheduled, with a potential Game 7 the following night.

Lou Piniella's coming to Wrigley Field, agreeing Monday to a three-year contract to manage the Chicago Cubs and accepting a job that has long been one of the most challenging in baseball. His assignment: Get to the playoffs and win a championship with a franchise that hasn't been to a World Series since 1945 and hasn't won one since 1908. Piniella replaces Dusty Baker, another veteran manager with a strong resume, who left after four years when his contract was not renewed following a 66-96 last-place finish in the NL.

Ken Macha managed the Oakland Athletics into the AL championship series, yet it still wasn't enough to save his job. Macha was fired by the Athletics on Monday, two days after the West champions were swept out of the playoffs by Detroit. The A's did not announce a replacement. Bench coach Bob Geren was considered a top candidate.

MLB news

5217. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:22:50 PM

Landis releases his testing documents. I have to say I beleive Landis now.

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For the synopsis, look at the Floy Landis SS_final.pdf file. There is no excuse for the lab's mishandling of the samples, or the misreporting of results (take note of the Carbon Isotope Test results among others).

The mislabeling of samples is also bad news for the lab (or at least should be).

5218. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:25:44 PM

Message # 5214

And several of them are sitting out the rest of the season... I think one of the UFI students was thrown off the team forever.

I do hate Miami though.

5219. iiibbb - 10/17/2006 3:27:11 PM

Oops... jsut saw your follow-up

5220. wabbit - 10/17/2006 3:53:18 PM

Two things about Landis:

  1. He is smart to release these documents to the public. Since the press is primarily interested in scandal, they should be able to sink their small pointy teeth into something here. Especially since the bulk of the gruntwork has been done for them.
  2. I have to agree with you; looking at that synopsis, how did anyone ever come to the conclusion that Landis was doping?
Landis may be guilty of doping, or not, but it sure doesn't look like this series of lab tests are anywhere close to proving he was.

5221. wonkers2 - 10/18/2006 4:35:00 AM

W2's Sailing Pics from San Francisco Bay.

5222. alistairconnor - 10/18/2006 10:08:04 AM

Cycling is full of money, conspiracy theories, and dope. I believe that dope tests have been scientifically designed to avoid positive tests for years.

I have no idea what happened with Floyd. Why would the Powers that Be conspire to falsely accuse him, when the sport is already reeling from true doping scandals? Rogue lab technicians, determined to frame someone after years of seeing cheats get off scot-free? Sheer incompetence, as portrayed in this dossier? Opinions?

5223. iiibbb - 10/18/2006 3:16:04 PM

- Because _their_ guy isn't winning?
- Because they were paid by some other team (if you can't dope... make it look like their guy did)?

- Of course never underestimate sheer incompitance, and administrative tunnel vision. It could be that the cylcing powers that be think they're doing the right thing, but that the lab simply made a HUGE mistake.

5224. alistairconnor - 10/18/2006 3:44:32 PM

Because _their_ guy isn't winning?

Who might he be? I want names! (there hasn't been a credible French candidate in a decade...)

I'm beginning to think the three-week bicycle race is fundamentally a bad idea, because the human organism can't keep up that level of intense athletic effort without cheating.

How about replacing the Tour de France with ten one-day events, spread over a month, with two rest days between each stage?

5225. wabbit - 10/18/2006 4:36:49 PM

I don't know that we'll ever know the who, if there is one (or more). The samples could have been mishandled/mislabeled right from the time of collection. Lab incompetence in this case seems obvious, but that might be dealt with by sending samples to a few different labs. Maybe someone simply screwed up and in an attempt to hide their error, the whole thing snowballed into a huge mess. I doubt anyone will be coming forward to confess to either collusion or incompetence.

What I would like to know is who decided to go forward with testing the Landis sample in the first place. From the synopsis, it looks like that shouldn't have happened (see screen 10 of the Floyd Landis SS_final.pdf). Or is this synopsis misinterpreting the rules?

AC, isn't there some discussion going on about rethinking the TdF format? I swear I read something about just that very idea not more than a month ago.

5226. wabbit - 10/18/2006 4:42:28 PM

Message # 5221 - great pics, wonkers2!

5227. iiibbb - 10/18/2006 5:31:53 PM

Message # 5224

You were caught by my rouse... I don't believe in conspiracy.

Besides... if you believe that Landis was despirate enough to cheat with such and obvious method; given there are supposively a miriad of ways to cheat that can't be detected (according to LeMond and others)... then why is it so hard to believe that someone would buy off a lab worker to spike Landis' samples?


Regardless, what I think happened was simply a lab error, and I don't necessarily assing any malevolence to it. A lab mistake is very plausible, particularly mislabling of samples. I've made such mistakes many times myself... and I consider myself to be very diligent about such things. I am diligent because when you make a labling error or whatnot it often means a trip back out to the field, or restarting a procedure.

So what Wabbit says is plausible. Somebody botched the chain of custody or a lab procedure and it's snowballed to the point that they'd be stupid to admit it now. The only thing the lab can do is change it's protocols for future tests. They can't salvage this whether someone thinks Landis was guilty or not.

So if there is a conspiracy... I would tend to think it is coming out of administrative side of cycling, which does seem to be highly influenced by politics. It doesn't seem that far of a stretch that they're driving the adgenda. The TDF organizers already consider Landis to not be the winner (before everything is settled). The cycling powers that be thing it is crazy to question a lab's proceedures. The tests were leaked prematurely to the press.

So a conspiracy from within cylcling seems as plausible as Landis cheating using such an unsophisticated and easily detected method... if we are to beleive it is so easy to hide cheating these days.

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