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6270. Bill Russell - 9/8/2004 3:26:40 PM My Son is a doctor of internal medicine in Maryland. He has develped a new treatment for diabetes, using a combination of three drugs, but if cinnamon works, it may not be necessary. It is better to treat people that way rather than with prescription drugs, imho.
I would try cinnamon first, I think. 6271. arkymalarky - 9/9/2004 7:14:04 AM He's in a much needed area of medicine. Diabetes can be devastating. I have a good friend whose mother lost both her legs (at the same time) due to diabetes. She was never able to recover from it and adjust. 6272. Marshame - 9/9/2004 7:18:21 AM Going to India in a week and a half and had to get Hep A booster, Hep B booster (ouch!), typhoid booster, and a flu shot.
I couldn't raise my arms for 24 hours!!
Learned last time to bring Dramamine as the roads are generally bumpy, the cars tiny and the drivers ride the brakes and the horn equally. I got sick last time and definitely want to avoid that happening again. Doc there told me to only eat white rice, very cooked veggies, bananas where I remove the peel, and black tean. I learned my lesson and will obey! 6273. arkymalarky - 9/9/2004 7:20:09 AM Hey Marsh!
Sounds like the diet I need to be on. ;-)
Hope you have a great trip. How long are you going to be there? 6274. RickNelson - 9/9/2004 10:10:57 PM I hope you have a great trip also Marshame. I've wondered about Goa for some time. It's not even on the radar for my life, but one never really knows.
There are parts in Malaysia that I think might be relevant to an experience in India. The open stall markets come to mind. The temples, such as the Snake and Monkey are also ideas.
6275. wabbit - 9/10/2004 12:02:41 AM Have a great trip, Marshame! Spunky is going in November to see his family, but alas, once again I am unable to go with him. 6276. thoughtful - 9/10/2004 12:46:29 AM marshame, my boss went to india and would only drink tea provided he saw the water boiling in the cup! Needless to say, he had no difficulties
Then again, my husband went to india many times over the years staying a couple of months each time, ate what he wanted, and never got sick. Mexico city did a number on him tho...go figure. 6277. thoughtful - 9/10/2004 12:48:41 AM While drugs may clearly be important for diabetics, weight loss by following a balanced diet with controlled carb intake and adding exercise, preferably 10 min walk after every meal is probably the best thing one can do for oneself.
Also, some have found alpha lipoic acid helpful with nerve damage that accompanies diabetes. 6278. Bill Russell - 9/10/2004 5:11:34 AM Try cinnamon. It's cheap and it tastes great. 6279. thoughtful - 9/10/2004 5:32:52 AM it's cheap, tastes great, but can't undo years of damage by excess insulin floating in the system which causes metabolic aging. Remember it takes a lot of abuse of the system for it to finally break down into type 2 diabetes. and no amount of cinnamon is going to undo that. and no amount of cinnamon can make up for the essential elements you aren't getting in a high carb diet. 6280. Bill Russell - 9/10/2004 5:45:25 AM Yup! 6281. arkymalarky - 9/10/2004 9:32:21 AM Bob is at the peak of his health after 8 months with diet and exercise. Not that people should abuse themselves that long, but lifestyle changes can work on health problems relatively quickly compared to how long it took them to develop in the first place.
You can eat a lot of complex carbohydrates on a diabetic diet, too. It's a very balanced and healthy diet if you emphasize healthy carbs. They do not advise low-carb like Atkins and warn patients against it. 6282. Bill Russell - 9/10/2004 2:47:35 PM "re that toilet bowl thing, the myth busters busted that myth. bathroom bacteria seems to make its way to toothbrushes wherever they are, even those that haven't been anywhere near a bathroom."
One of the great mysteries of the world ..... IF true.
6283. concerned - 9/11/2004 2:07:45 PM Speaking of exercise, today I was able to do an overhead press with a York barbell loaded to 185 lb. Not completely shabby for a 49 1/2 year old guy who has barely touched a free weight in 21 years. The exercise machine at work is a joke. I was able to press the military press stack (supposedly 295 lb) while seated ten times without popping a sweat.
As much as exercising with free weights bored me when I did it in my '20's, I think there's nothing quite as effective at building real strength, so I'll make an effort to get back into it before I qualify for senior citizen discounts. 6284. concerned - 9/11/2004 2:16:15 PM Re. 6266 -
That sounds like great news. I was getting close to being 'glucose resistant', so anything easy to use that keeps the blood sugar down is worth a try. Recently, I've been taking a chromium supplement while cutting down on foods that have high glycemic indexes and I think that's already helped. 6285. Bill Russell - 9/11/2004 5:58:41 PM I wish you every success, concerned. I know it is not fun. 6286. rebelwithacause - 9/13/2004 8:28:02 AM I am not a vegetarian, but I keep thinking I should be. Surely vegetarians who don't eat refined sugars and other processed foods, don't have the problems with diabetes that others do.
Is anyone here a vegetarian, or one who doesn't eat the products of dead animals? I mean eggs and milk products would be from live animals. 6287. arkymalarky - 9/13/2004 9:48:44 AM I've known people who were (Chelsea Clinton was) but I can't remember anything they said about pros and cons health-wise.
In my husband's case wrt type ii diabetes, he flat ate too much, and way too much "fast food" in a two-year period when he was constantly on the go and highly stressed. 6288. wonkers2 - 9/13/2004 10:26:09 AM Since the publicity on Clinton's heart by-pass, I've been experiencing [or imagining] symptoms similar to his--pains due to acid re-flux [or something else???]. Right now I'm waiting it out to see if it goes away. Recently I had a really bad case of bursitis in my right elbow. But by the time I could get an appointment (4 weeks--you'd think I was in Canada) it had pretty well disappeared so I did my bit to keep health care costs down and cancelled the appointment. 6289. concerned - 9/13/2004 12:28:03 PM Re. 6286 -
That should certainly help. I suspect one of the big culprits regarding Type II diabetes is the large reliance on 'high fructose corn syrup' in processed foods, although processed food manufacturers have generally been moving away from it within the last year, I presume for this same reason. Some studies have shown that the fructose only sweetening elevates blood triglycerides and raises the incidence of Type II diabetes in (for instance) women who drink non diet pop. Since learning this, I've virtually sworn off non-diet pop and drink 100% fruit drinks which I sometimes dilute 1:1 with flavored soda water. I actually like to drink this concoction more than the straight fruit juice in many cases.
It's interesting that manufacturers who a year ago were sweetening breakfast cereals almost exclusively with high fructose corn syrup have switched en masse to sugar, honey, etc. I observed this trend myself. Anybody who has any cereal boxes from a year or more ago vs the same cereal sold today can probably verify this for themselves.
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