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6495. bhelpuri - 6/21/2010 7:26:36 AM

I've been disgusted by obvious fixes and referee biases all through the last two world cups (remember australia being robbed last time, against italy?) This one no different - for example, the denial of the third US goal against slovakia was simply scandalous. FIFA is thoroughly rotten.

6496. bhelpuri - 6/21/2010 7:28:46 AM

Interesting that you're no longer "French", Connor. I find myself relying more on hyphens than ever before for my own self-identification. Never the dreaded "world citizen" tho, so help me Mahatma.

6497. alistairConnor - 6/21/2010 9:21:35 AM

Oh yes I'm still French. The proof of this is that I don't hesitate to kick a man when he's down. Loyalty to a sports team is foreign to the French psyche.

As a New Zealander, on the other hand, it's my country right or wrong. I'm enjoying the schizophrenia.

I thoroughly agree about the third US goal. I missed the match, but the subtext is surely about preserving England's chances of finishing first in the group.

Counter-example : I was interested to see how intelligently Italy-NZ was refereed. It would have been easy, and in fact hard to criticize, if the ref had handed out fistfuls of yellow cards for the way the Kiwis brutalized the poor little Italians. But the fact is, most of them play in 2nd or 3rd division teams, or equivalent, where the game is much more physical, and they often seemed genuinely surprised to be whistled up for it.

I guess the match was not deemed significant enough to merit a "political" briefing for the ref...

It would be interesting to do a statistical analysis on this. How many matches unjustly lost by "dangerous" teams, because the opponent was protected by the ref? And how many "surprising upsets" by minor teams, in the absence of protection?

There's nothing surprising about the upsets. It's how sport works, when left to its own devices.

6498. alistairConnor - 6/22/2010 10:32:49 AM

Ah les Bleus!

Rather frustrating, I have to avoid talking about football at work. Reminds me of the Rugby World Cup in 1999, when France eliminated the All Blacks... I was in NZ at the time, the entire nation was in mourning, and I had to keep biting my lip to keep from grinning.

Apparently a number of sponsors have had their logos taken off the team's gear... I was rather shocked on Sunday, I saw the grinning face of Nicolas Anelka on a bus shelter, advertising hamburgers. He'd disappeared by Monday.

My preferred outcome is that South Africa win tonight, and progress to the knockout rounds instead of France.

Furthermore, the entire squad of 22 players should be blackballed, i.e. ineligible for selection for the national team, for life (the coach is already finished).

I regret that the Roman punishment of decimation can not be applied in this case.

6499. vonKreedon - 6/22/2010 1:44:38 PM

Hell of a way for Henri Thierry's international career to end, first the double handball against Ireland and now this clusterfuck.

6500. alistairConnor - 6/22/2010 3:35:59 PM

Twenty minutes into the game :

South Africa 1-0 France.
And France are down to ten men.

Looks like they are doing the decent thing...

Collective suicide, to gift a double-digit score to the host nation.

That's uncharacteristically decent of them, but let's not speak ill of the dead...

6501. vonKreedon - 6/22/2010 5:02:00 PM

Haha...well that's it for the French, 2-1 loss to South Africa. And Uruguay beats Mexico 1-0. Unfortunately for the hosts, assuming I'm reading the standings correctly, Mexico still gets to go through instead of SA on their goal differential.

6502. alistairConnor - 6/22/2010 6:01:04 PM

Yeah, France couldn't even get the dramatic exit right.

6503. vonKreedon - 6/23/2010 4:55:53 PM

Whoo-Hoo!!!!

That was about as perfect nail biting match imaginable, right to Donovan being the one that scored the goal in stoppage time. Oh man, my nerves.

USA defeats Algeria 1-0, wins group!

6504. alistairConnor - 6/23/2010 5:10:36 PM

yes, this gives them the privilege of meeting the second-place team from Group D, which will probably be Serbia. Tough, but not impossible!

Meanwhile, England beat Slovenia, ensuring second place, and therefore probably Germany in the first knockout round. That could be the most interesting match-up.

6505. vonKreedon - 6/23/2010 6:03:50 PM

Meanwhile at Wimbledon, the 6506. vonKreedon - 6/23/2010 6:08:43 PM

Ok, that was weird, let's try again:

Meanwhile at Wimbledon, the Isner/Mahut match is setting all sorts of records.

6507. vonKreedon - 6/23/2010 7:58:13 PM

So I finally drove in to work and after my 25 minute commute check on the Isner/Mahut match and find it still going at 49-49 in the fifth set. Holy Crap, the only blessing for these two, other than that neither has been defeated yet, is that this match started yesterday and they have had a night's sleep. OTOH, since they started at least three other matches have started AND finished.

6508. vonKreedon - 6/23/2010 10:24:59 PM

And the match is suspended for darkness for the second time!!! The fifth set is 59-59 and by itself is the longest Grand Slam match of all time. The match has so far gone for 10 hours exactly, with 7 hours 6 minutes of that in today's ongoing fifth set. Both Isner and Mahut have eclipsed the record for aces with 98 and 95 respectively.

And while losing in straight sets to Djokovic, Taylor Dent set a new serve speed record of 148mph!

6509. alistairConnor - 6/24/2010 3:37:24 PM

New Zealand playing Paraguay for an improbable qualification.

At the same time, Italy/Slovakia, and the Italians are one down!

6510. vonKreedon - 6/24/2010 4:49:41 PM

OMG, this is quite the World Cup for melt downs - the Italians are down 3-1 to the Slovaks! What's next? Will the Spaniards lose 3-0 to Chile?

Meanwhile the Kiwis remain tied 0-0 with Paraguay.

6511. vonKreedon - 6/24/2010 4:55:59 PM

The Italians make it look not so bad, scoring a goal in injury time, but it's not enough. Paraguay and Slovakia advance.

6512. vonKreedon - 6/24/2010 5:09:14 PM

At Wimbledon, the Isner-Mahut match finally finishes with Isner winning 6-4; 3-6; 6-7; 7-6; 70-68.

6513. resonance - 6/24/2010 9:06:14 PM

That match was insane. Talk about a will to win. I think I would have snapped.

6514. vonKreedon - 6/24/2010 9:55:18 PM

Seriously. The guy he's going to play tomorrow had a good long match himself, 6-7; 6-4; 6-3; 5-7; 16-14, but that was I believe all over two days ago.

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