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6740. wabbit - 2/3/2007 11:25:16 PM I can take or leave underwires, but what really drives me crazy are the straps always slipping. Wide-set straps may look good in the VS catalog, but they are a nightmare to wear. Give me a comfy racerback and I'll deal with or without underwires.
Meanwhile, Arky, have a look at these! 6741. arkymalarky - 2/4/2007 3:23:27 AM Thanks, Judith! But it seems like (other than sports bras) my size come with underwire. I usually don't notice until I get them home. It may be that they're too cheaply made or that I tend toward cysts, which might make me more sensitive. All I know is, I love having finally gotten around to removing them. I like them otherwise--they're soft and comfortable, which is why I got them in the first place.
And thanks for the link, Wabbit! 6742. thoughtful - 2/5/2007 3:58:43 PM I used to hate underwires but finally switched over because I was starting to look too matronly and clothes weren't fitting properly. I really need the extra support they give. I'm most frustrated though as I found some for cheap in reading pa outlet in a tent sale and i LOVE them...they look great, fit perfectly, have a great shape and are extremely comfortable. Now I have no idea if I'll ever be able to find them again and buy more. I've never been poked by underwires but find they sometimes can rub uncomfortably against my rib cage.
If you need the support but cant stand underwires, try the 18 hr bra...it's built like a tank.
There's also one maker...warner??...that switched the underwires with plastic that's supposed to be more comfortable. There are also makers that have shortened the wire on the outside so they won't poke under the arm...i believe they're called no poke.
Check out OneHanesPlace...it's a catalog full of bras from various manufacturers and it's a great place to see the options available, of which there are many many many.
6743. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 4:14:13 PM Cap'n Dirty sez, "A picture's worth a thousand words!" 6744. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 4:15:56 PM Cap'n "Oops! I jest noticed wabbit's in #6740." 6745. arkymalarky - 2/5/2007 7:25:00 PM The ends don't poke me, it's the feel of the wire itself underneath. I could go the extra and get better made I guess, but I love the ones I have with the wires out. 6746. alistairconnor - 2/5/2007 7:46:37 PM 6740 : what, no bells and whistles? 6747. thoughtful - 2/5/2007 8:03:15 PM Just for Cap'n Dirty, a pic of thoughtful before she got her new bra
and after
Amazing what a good bra will do, no? 6748. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 2/5/2007 8:24:06 PM or Prozac . . .
 6749. wonkers2 - 2/5/2007 10:39:29 PM The Cap'n sez, very thoughtful of you thoughtful. Thanks. 6750. thoughtful - 2/6/2007 6:19:46 PM Calling all current and future seniors, here's news from Dean Baker's Beat the Press where he beats up on the press for doing such a lousy job. This is incredibly significant and underreported:
In fact, President Bush does propose phasing out Medicare in his new budget, if the NYT got its facts right. According to this article, President Bush proposes to change the rules on the means-testing of Medicare benefits, so that the income current cutoffs of $80,000 for individuals and $160,000 for couples are not indexed.
This means that over time, more and more of the senior population would have to pay premiums that largely cover the cost of their Medicare. In other words, Medicare will no longer be government provided health care for most of the elderly population.
How fast will the benefits phase out? Well in roughly twenty years, the means-testing would be hitting singles who are the same point in the income distribution as someone earning $40,000 a year today, and couples earning $80,000. In forty years, the point at which Social Security is first projected to face a shortfall, the means-testing would be hitting singles who are at the same point in the income distribution as someone earning $20,000 a year today, and couples earning $40,000. In other words, under President Bush's proposal many middle income elderly people would face the loss of their Medicare subsidy before Social Security faces any funding shortfall. A bit further out, and only the poor would still recieve any subsidy through the Medicare program.
After Social Security, Medicare is the country's largest social program. When a president proposes phasing it out, it should be big news. Why aren't the reporters covering it? 6751. wonkers2 - 2/6/2007 11:23:21 PM My former employer recently announced that henceforth, retirees will have to eat any increases in the company health care plan. The effect will be similar to that of Bush's Medicare proposal. 6752. robertjayb - 2/15/2007 5:37:33 AM Why does health care cost so much...(Ezra Klein)
The nonpartisan McKinsey Group has released a study called "Accounting for the Cost of Health Care in the United States." The idea, as the title suggests, is to figure out, in a rigorous and methodical way, why we pay so much more than any other developed country.
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The very short answer is that we pay more for units of care. McKinsey estimates that it is not higher disease prevalence. Differences in health account for only about $25 billion of the variation -- a drop in the bucket. The difference really is that we pay higher doctor salaries, higher drug costs, higher operation costs, more per day in the hospital, etc, etc. In essence, we're getting a terrible deal.
6753. wonkers2 - 2/15/2007 5:01:03 PM A Health Care Plan So Simple, Even Stephen Colbert Couldn't Simplify It
Cobert on Bush health plan: "It's so simple. Most people who can't afford health insurance also are too poor to owe taxes. But if you give them a deduction from the taxes they don't owe, they can use the money they're not getting back from what they haven't given to buy the health care they can't afford."
Robert H. Frank shoots holes in Bush health proposal 6754. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 2/15/2007 10:59:09 PM And the opposite of The Bush Health Plan . . .
Charlie, a Rottweiler mix, whose own mother rejected him, snuggles Wednesday, Feb. 14, 2007 with his substitute mother, Satin, at the Meriden Humane Society in Meriden, Conn. The cat had just had her own litter of kittens and took on Charlie in addition. (AP Photo/Bob Child) 6755. wonkers2 - 2/16/2007 6:09:44 PM Krugman on "The Health Care Racket."
Krugman on "The Health Care Racket"
6756. arkymalarky - 3/8/2007 3:06:15 AM Hey Thoughtful, didn't you post a site on calisthenics here a long time ago? Do you have the link handy to post again, by any chance? 6757. arkymalarky - 3/8/2007 3:18:32 AM This one looks nice.
I didn't find anything until I googled calisthenics routine as opposed to just calisthenics. 6758. robertjayb - 3/19/2007 3:57:35 PM breath test for lung cancer?
Boston (eCanadaNow) - A new study has shown that a breath test could possible detect lung cancer in patients.
The breath test device would be very small, the size of a coin actually and can detect up to 75% of all people with lung cancer according to researchers.
One negative to the test though is that it found many people with lung cancer who did not actually have the disease. Too many false positive test results.
A very unsatisfactory account of an interesting prospect...
6759. judithathome - 3/19/2007 4:22:08 PM Keoni received a call from a former co-worker last night and learned a 50 year old man he once worked with had committed suicide over the weekend. The guy was on the list to receive a liver transplant and evidently, some computer glitch or missing paperwork caused him to be dropped off the list...it's unclear what caused the change in status...but he became extremely depressed and shot himself in the head.
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