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6780. thoughtful - 3/27/2007 2:30:05 PM

Consider your typical 'healthy' american breakfast. It is nothing but a total sugar load, so everyone starts their day with a sugar high and insulin rush.

orange juice
Raisin bran
Skim milk
banana
coffee

You're looking at about 85 grams of sugar or about 21 teaspoons, depending on if you add milk and sugar to your coffee.


6781. alistairconnor - 3/27/2007 2:45:50 PM

Makes sense to me Tful... I have been suspicious of the cholesterol cult for decades.

Well anyway, you're telling me what I want to hear. I've been feeling a bit uneasy that since I went back to eating meat a couple of years ago, I may be overdosing on animal fats... I like the message that it's all good except the sugar/carbs.

6782. thoughtful - 3/27/2007 6:53:13 PM

Knock me over with a feather!!!

This paradigm, I can break, but not the global warming one.

OK.

Since you're willing to listen, I'll give you a little more.

Don't worry about saturated fat. Rather avoid transfats like the plague. They are sand in the gears of the body. When it comes to fat, it's more important to get a balance of fats including your monounsaturated (olive oil) and your omega-3s (fish oil and flax seed oil and walnuts). These are essential fatty acids (essential meaning the body can't make them out of other things).

Eat adequate protein...6-8 ozs per day for the average woman; 10-12 ozs per day for the average man...it's necessary to build muscle.

Adjust your carb intake to control your weight. Eat good carbs not bad carbs...brown rice and whole wheat bread and starchy vegetables like sweet potatoes or acorn squash are good carbs...chocolate cake, cheetos, and french fries are bad carbs. Remember all carbs get converted to sugar so your body doesn't care if it comes in a grape or tostitos chip. Only difference is the nutritional content that comes with the carb. But a grape can raise blood sugar just like a cookie, and should be counted as carbs. Milk which is full of lactose is a carb.

Balance your meals. Every meal should consist of a fat, a protein, a carb, and a nonstarchy vegetable. This will limit the sugar shock from the carb and make sure you are getting a full complement of nutrients. Nonstarchy vegetables are especially important as they a) are low calorie but filling b) add a lot of necessary fiber c) are nutrition powerhouses which help fight cancer, add anti-oxidants to eliminate free radicals and much more. Further, balance your snacks. Better to eat a handful of walnuts with an apple than to have just an apple...the walnuts add fat (omega-3) and protein, slowing down digestion and minimizing sugar shock from the carbs in the apple.

Drink lots of water. Avoid processed foods and chemicals and excess salt. Eat what comes naturally...what you can fish, farm, pick, milk, etc. Don't eat stuff your ancestors wouldn't recognize. Cheese does not come in cans. Fruit does not come in rolls.



6783. thoughtful - 3/27/2007 6:55:07 PM

BTW, when I was in wyoming a couple of years ago, I struck up a conversation with a biochemist about this diet stuff and he was surprised at what I was telling him as he said that's what the biochemical science is discovering and that medical science hasn't caught up with them yet...he said I was very leading edge.

Maybe so too with the global warming, eh?

6784. alistairConnor - 3/27/2007 8:23:40 PM

Well, I come from a medical family that has a strong sceptical streak. I have enough scientific training to know to take nothing on faith; when in doubt, I need to understand enough of the premises of the question to at least work out who I can trust. I have done enough biochem to know that the medical profession has been driving blind and bluffing a great deal. I have always been inclined to pay attention to folk remedies and wisdom in health matters, and to mistrust or question the verdict of the medical orthodoxy. My family doctor does homeopathy. I understand the power structures of the medical profession, where the vested interests of high priesthood and drug companies rule the roost.

None of this applies to global warming. Eminent scientists have been howling in the wilderness for twenty or thirty years. As Gandhi said, first they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you... The power structures -- politicians and economic interests -- have fought them tooth and nail. In the last year or two, they have gained a wider audience because the evidence stacks up. The power structures have at least feigned acceptance... all the better to regroup and resist implementation of the necessary changes...

Apart from that, it's a really close analogy, Tful!

But... follow the money eh?

6785. wonkers2 - 3/28/2007 12:17:03 AM

Thanks, thoughtful! Like alistaire, I find you more credible on diet than climate.

6786. wonkers2 - 4/1/2007 3:56:40 AM

Dennis Kucinich on Health Care

6787. robertjayb - 4/2/2007 9:16:12 PM

Epigenetics a promising approach to cancer treatment...(HouChron)

As they completed the "book of life" earlier this decade, scientists with the Human Genome Project declared they had struck upon the path leading toward eventual cures for most diseases.

By scribbling down all 3 billion DNA letters of the genetic code, the scientists reasoned, they could ferret out the defective genes in sick patients that explained why diseases such as cancer flourished and ultimately killed their hosts.

But less than a decade later, a related science called epigenetics may have begun eclipsing traditional genetics. In epigenetics, it is factors such as diet and smoking, rather than inheritance, that influence how genes behave.

A deepening understanding of this process has led to the development of drugs to rehabilitate cancer cells — by wiping away their bad memories — instead of bombing them into submission.

"There are more people working now on the epigenetics of cancer than the genetics of cancer," said Jean Pierre Issa, a professor at the University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center.


6788. wonkers2 - 4/3/2007 12:16:44 AM

Interesting--like plants well fertilized, weeded and watered.

6789. betty - 4/3/2007 12:38:48 AM

Wow, that's really interesting. My dad has just had radiation in his eye for eye cancer...his second bought with the "big C" at 56. His doctors keep telling him that his twinkies and coke diet and thirty plus years of smoking probably have nothing to do with it, it's probably more closely linked with genetics.

considering what thoughtful posted above and what I know about other topics, it seems that Medical science is not very good science. how cutting edge is our medicine?

6790. thoughtful - 4/3/2007 1:20:19 PM

I've seen a lot of statistics, none consistent, on what % is determined by genes and what % is determined by lifestyle. My conclusion is that lifestyle accounts for a lot more than many people think.

I look at my brother who is 54 but looks like he's in his 70s vs me who many people presume i'm a decade younger than I am. He smokes, doesn't watch his diet, drinks too much, doesn't exercise, and has ended up with diabetes and has a stent in his carotid artery as he's had a stroke and was losing his vision due to poor circulation to his brain.

I drink very little, never smoked, exercise daily, and try to eat nutritiously. I also have no significant health issues.

6791. alistairConnor - 4/3/2007 3:31:22 PM

I intend to die old and leave a good-looking corpse (to science?)

6792. thoughtful - 4/3/2007 4:24:53 PM

Funny you should mention that AC.

A long time ago I signed up with an area med school to donate my body to them when I die. Only thing is, I might be rejected. Can you imagine failing to get into med school even as a cadaver???

They won't take you if you are obese or emaciated or have died of something infectious or are mangled or have too many body parts missing....like you were first an organ donor...they much prefer you to be an organ donor if possible for obvious reasons.

I suppose if i get rejected, i can always try to get accepted at the body farm....

6793. alistairConnor - 4/3/2007 4:51:05 PM

Or failing that, at the pig farm. As long as I can be useful.

Perhaps I could get anoxically cremated! Yes, reduced to charcoal, so that my ashes would be sequestering carbon.

Sounds like a promising business venture, actually.

6794. thoughtful - 4/3/2007 6:02:07 PM

we can just throw you in the la brea tar pits and you can fossilize

6795. arkymalarky - 4/3/2007 6:37:10 PM

My dad's good friend once wrote a nice song, "Send Me to Glory in a Glad Bag."
The last line of the chorus: "Just set me on the curb on Tuesday, and let the sanitation locals take me home."

6796. thoughtful - 4/3/2007 9:09:48 PM

I've been teasing mom about at least her being too old to die young. Wouldn't you know it the car talk guys had a song on last week "Just Too Old To Still Die Young."

6797. alistairConnor - 4/4/2007 1:27:20 PM

Funny how these subjects pop up...

I just read an article about Keith Richards... guess what he did with his father's ashes?

You guessed right... mixed him with some coke and snorted him...

An odd variation on ritual cannibalism eh? (The old bugger always got up my nose, so...)

I certainly hope my kids don't do that to me.

6798. thoughtful - 4/4/2007 2:12:06 PM

That is disgusting. I heard it on the news this a.m. That guy is nuts. Of course I'm always so suspicious of crematoria, I suspect those were probably ashes from someone or something else. I mean do you really think they clean those furnaces after each body? I view the ash thing as more symbolic than anything else.

Remember that joint in GA? Yuck.

6799. betty - 4/4/2007 3:31:16 PM

I have a soft spot for cemetaries because they were some of the first municipal parks (see, AC, cemetaries started the green revolution), but the idea of actually rotting away in one makes me ill. Plus I get into the whole Decca Milford politics of the funerary business...so it's cremation for me, thanks.

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