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6835. clydefo - 4/5/2007 1:11:03 AM

6831.

...carbs--complex or not--stimulate my appetite.
Having a high water content and low calories, complex carbs let one munch all day and enjoy a full belly while still losing or maintaining weight, especially if one stays busy enough to start sweating during the day

6833.
...if I eat too many carbs, I gain weight...
Don't eat too many. Or less couch time.

6834.
When the "food" lobby wrote the labeling laws, they provided loopholes allowing them to "round down" fat % to zero if the amount per portion size is below some threshold, maybe one gram.
This site is probably as accurate as any. Cooked broccoli 10% fat calories
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/11091.html

6836. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 6:13:53 AM

The absolute best I've ever done, exercise-wise, was with Basic Training, with Ada

I have tapes converted to dvds that I can use on my laptop, and I've done that some, but I'm going to start with the calisthenics and treadmill and work my way up to using her routines again, hopefully by summer. I wouldn't have done any good with any exercise before my hysterectomy and getting my allergies under control, and I'm starting my allergy shots back Friday. I would have a few weeks ago, but I've been fighting a chronic sinus infection. I was about to go on antibiotics, but the rain and following cooler, dry weather are giving it a chance to clear up, so maybe I won't have to.

I'm doing a food/exercise diary, and I got everything set this evening to officially start in the morning. I've "practiced" today, eating less and walking on the treadmill. I'm glad to have four days before school starts back to work into a routine.

6837. Ulgine Barrows - 4/5/2007 6:30:28 AM

larky, I've been 'practicing' for a good 4 months now.
Noting has gotten me off my butt, so sad.

Shout out to all you other big hips & butts.

6838. Ulgine Barrows - 4/5/2007 6:33:46 AM

Every morning, I've got a new chance


-Spoon

6839. alistairConnor - 4/5/2007 2:18:32 PM

Yeah get off your butt Ulgine
and let me get on it.

I don't know if we'll lose weight
but we could have fun trying.

6840. thoughtful - 4/5/2007 2:18:53 PM

clydefo, i'm afraid your high carb diet is way out of date and not in keeping with the learnings from the impact of carbs on insulin and blood sugar levels. I used to follow a high carb diet and found a good chunk of my body nothing but a bin of cellulite. I switched to schwarzbein which is a controlled carb diet and my cellulite evaporated. Cellulite of course is nothing but fat. And the body must protect the brain from excess sugar so all carbs consumed must be burned immediately or layed down as fat, usually around the middle. The basic building blocks of syndrome X. Further, carbs take a lot longer for the body to register as 'full' than do protein or fats so it's very easy to overeat carbs vs. the others.

On top of that, the essential role of protein in the body esp as it comes to building muscle has been greatly underestimated by these high carb diets. See for example, the latest Nutrition action letter on Saving Muscle. In addition to requiring protein to build muscle, the more muscle the body contains, the more calories it burns, even at rest, which makes it easier to lose weight and keep it off.

And as far as protein being bad for your kidneys, that's true. Fat is bad for your arteries and Carbs are bad for your blood sugar, but you have to eat something. That's why the majority of nutritionists recommend, and have recommended for decades the importance of a balanced diet. A diet such as your recommending is not balanced.

6841. thoughtful - 4/5/2007 2:26:41 PM

As far as fat in vegetables, it depends on the vegetable. Corn is high in fat...think corn oil. So are olives and soy beans and especially high fat is avocados. But generally nonstarchy vegetables like squash and green beans and lettuce are not good sources of fat.

For anyone wondering about nutritional content of various foods, I highly recommend this link...very thorough and has a great visual to help you place the food on the fat/protein/carb pyramid.

6842. thoughtful - 4/5/2007 2:29:52 PM

For weight loss considerations, let me recommend another approach. For every 100 extra calories a day you consume, you will gain 10 lbs in a year. Knowing that fact, you can judge where you are today and where you'd like to be. Say you decide you'd like to be 10 lbs lighter in a year. Then with very little effort...say deciding to skip a slice of bread with butter at dinner...you can painlessly lose the 10 lbs and maintain that weight loss.

Or you can combine that with a daily activity like burning 50 calories extra and eating 50 fewer calories and achieve the same result.

6843. thoughtful - 4/5/2007 2:32:55 PM

Also, here is an exercise/calorie burned calculator.

6844. Magoseph - 4/5/2007 2:50:30 PM

Thanks for the links, thoughtful.

6845. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 3:35:02 PM

Great stuff, y'all! Thanks Thoughtful!!

6846. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 3:35:27 PM

Getupoffit, Ulgine, and let's go!

6847. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 3:50:50 PM

Okay. Day one.

After stripping every shred, including rings, trimming my toenails, peeing, spitting, and blowing my nose, I weigh 157 lbs. This isn't true confessions time for everybody, it's just my blog/diary part, so don't feel like you need to chime in with your own weight, but go ahead if you want.

My general "diet" will be cereal with 1% milk (cold or hot) with a max of 200 calories. I will have orange juice at 110 calories, and coffee with 5tbsp of Lite Coffeemate at 50 calories (cutting the cream/creamer in my coffee is my biggest sacrifice--I like strong coffee with lots of cream, no sugar). I will have one chocolate square at 60 calories and one granola bar before lunch at 150 calories. I will take two fiber tablets a day at 20 calories, and plan to have water and tea at hand at all times--0 calories. I will have one can of low-sodium V-8 a day at 30 calories, and one piece of fresh fruit (? calories--usually an apple). I will have Slimfast for lunch while at work and a caloric equivalent at home. For my "main meal," whether supper or lunch, I put a calorie limit of 450. Most frozen dinners (Kashi ones are great, but fairly high carb with the grains) are around 350. For an evening snack, if I can't stand it, I eat a tablespoon of peanutbutter and drink a cup of milk at 200 calories.

I plan to keep a diary of everything I eat and maintain a daily calorie count that doesn't exceed 1500.

I'm taking one multivitamin for people over 50, even though I'm not over 50.

To start, my exercise goal is to do one set (is a set 8-10 reps? it didn't say) of the "core" calisthenics in the link I posted and 1/2 to 1 mile on the treadmill at 2-2.5mph. I'll see how that goes today and do the doctor thing tomorrow morning. This morning I followed the breakfast, which I generally do anyway, and I'm adding fiber to the max and some prunes/prune juice along with lots more water and tea to try to clean out my system somewhat, since I'm going to be home the next four days.

Our luckiest feature where we live is FANTASTIC water, so I can drink gobs of it and take it to work for tea and water.

6848. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 4:00:33 PM

I like grab-and-go stuff, especially the Tropicana fresh orange juice single-serve cartons. I also like the 100 calorie packs of Doritos. Bob loves to measure his stuff ahead of time and puts them in the new little Glad containers (with the blue tops). He measures out his oatmeal for every day, with prunes, nuts, and Splenda. He loves Splenda, but I know Judith for one, has had major problems trying to use it. I don't set out to, but I don't have to avoid it, and Bob doesn't eat all the stuff he used to with a Splenda replacement. IOW, he doesn't drink any soda, eat sweets, etc. He also eats lots of the Kashi 7-grain cereal when he can get it--the one with no sweetener in it. He's having to go to Little Rock for it now. He's very routine, and eats a lot of the same things, but he loves them. For diabetics it's all about the carbs, so he's limited to a low-carb diet, but he hardly takes in any fat or meat at all--which is strange, because he's always been (and still is) such a meat lover. And between oatmeal and Kashi, he eats a lot of whole grains. No bread, though, at all. He loves mixing yogurt (Splenda-sweetened Lite85) with Kashi. He loves tomato anything, and drinks lots of V-8.

6849. Wombat - 4/5/2007 4:31:20 PM

I try and use as little "diet" food as possible, the main exception being diet Coke or Pepsi. I am not going to ruin the taste of my morning coffee by substituting Splenda or Equal (cannot do saccharine) for 2 teaspoons of turbinado sugar (30-40 calories, at most).

I also eschew most lo-fat dairy products (exceptions 1% milk when I have cereal, and Neuchatel cheese for cream cheese with my bagel and lox.

6850. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 4:42:16 PM

I'm generally the same wrt diet, but I've found "Lite" stuff that doesn't substitute but simply contains less of some things (Lite peanutbutter, for instance) suits me as well--and after a time tastes better--than the regular stuff. I read labels for that, though.

I also don't like subbing what I really really like and feeling deprived. That works against me in the long run. Out of necessity Bob uses Splenda for everything and says he likes it as well as sugar and can't taste the difference. There are some other "natural" sweeteners out he hasn't tried, or at least not more than once. One is Stevia, which someone recommended to him.

Mose swears by the "Zero" sodas, but I'm better off not to have them at all, and if I do want a soda I want "real" Coke or Dr. Pepper or Sierra Mist. Bob drinks unsweetened tea wherever we eat out and whatever it is we're eating.

6851. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 4:44:33 PM

Eating out is the big issue, really, especially when we're busy. And Judith can attest to the fact that where I work, to be such a small town, has several MAJOR temptations in that regard. In fact, I shouldn't even be talking about them this early in my new program. ;-)

6852. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 4:47:38 PM

A note on target: I don't really want to say when--though the end of summer is what I'm secretly hoping--but I'd like to get under 130. I didn't weigh over 100 lbs until after college, and since childhood I'd always been made fun of for being too skinny (this was pre-heroin-chic). After Mose I stayed around 115 until I hit 30, when I began bingeing at lunch every day with a friend from work. My best weight with exercise and a "toned up" look after that was 123 lbs. I'd like to get around that at least. I'm 5'4".

6853. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 4:55:46 PM

The truckstop and another gas station with GREAT burgers right up the road have also been a temptation. For me, keeping my stress levels (not necessarily anxiety--for me that's a different thing, and can actually make me lose weight if it gets out of control, and I DON'T want to lose it that way) under control are really key. I forget restaurants when my stress is down. When it's up, I want to just grab food. So I'm also trying to incorporate some meditation and more constructive "down time" and work on pacing myself better. That also means getting back into some things I've wanted to do or used to do, like re-learning the guitar, getting my house in order, etc.

There will be frantic days of finishing projects and getting grades in--I've come to DESPISE deadlines--but I want them to be few and far between, compared to what they have been the past three or four years, and I want to handle them better.

6854. arkymalarky - 4/5/2007 5:25:13 PM

Couple more things, then I'm logging off for a while:

First, suggestions from anyone? I tried to lay out pretty much everything I'm planning to do. I will also weigh every morning. That's just me, and I work best when I do that, especially to start. I have class on Monday nights, so may or may not post that day. It is the day I may eat out, as well. When I was on Weight Watchers I ate out one day a week--right after the WW meeting.

Second, the date I'm scheduled for WildBlue internet hookup is April 12, so from then on I don't have to sit here in chunks on dialup wondering if Sweepstakes people are trying to call while I'm online. ;-)

Third, is anyone else who's ongoing or starting some kind of "program" interested in any weekly comparisons, group efforts, etc? (thinking back to what I said about my school in the past) Any "jump-start" ideas or warnings against them? In my night class, they're passing some kind of three-day enzyme diet around, and my prof lost--I think he said something like 30-40 lbs--on it combined with "regular" dieting between that one. He's older than Bob, I think over 60. If I get a copy, which they're supposed to email, I'll post it. I'm not thinking of trying it. I did a cabbage soup one years ago that came from my principal at work, and I still cringe thinking about that soup. Bob and I both did it. The first day it was sort of tasty....

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