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6955. arkymalarky - 4/13/2007 10:21:13 PM

Thanks for all the info, Thoughtful! I'm very glad to get diagnosed rather than be frustrated that I'm trying to diet and exercise and nothing seems to be working, which is where I'd be a month from now if I hadn't gone in for a physical. Thyroid wouldn't have been on my radar. I will be very meticulous about medicine adjustment, because I have too much to do in the next month or so to feel too crappy either direction. I just hope I can get it adjusted fairly quickly.

My dr has ordered several other blood tests, and I will probably get the results on Monday. She will start my meds from there. Like I said, both my parents have thyroid problems--my mother's due to Lupus was hypo- at one time, and my dad's, once hyper-, doesn't work at all now.

6956. arkymalarky - 4/13/2007 10:22:28 PM

I have a feeling I was getting a problem with my thyroid which led to me needing the hysterectomy in the first place.

6957. clydefo - 4/13/2007 10:53:56 PM

But how do we go about making sure we maintain healthy blood sugar levels?


A high complex carb diet delivers just the right steady feed of fuel to the furnace, a clean burn to energy, water and carbon dioxide.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Dr. Wiseman learned at Pritikin's knee.

Following the KISS principle, I think the minimalist best health advice is:

Work and play hard enough to sweat for at least 100 minutes a day.
Throughout the day maintain a belly sated with plants and moderate amounts of other food.
Don't eat it if it has a face. (Optional)
Minimize salt and toxins.

6958. judithathome - 4/13/2007 10:59:21 PM

I'm happy for you that this diet works for you, Clyde...but I just have to say that I run like hell from anyone who uses the line "I don't eat anything that has had a face". I think it's a ridiculous statement and puts people like me who eat meat, poultry, and fish on an immediate "lower plane" than the sanctimonious vegans who feel so morally superior seem to smirk while delivering that remark.

"I'm not a meat eater" gets the point across without the smugness, thank you very much! ;-)

6959. judithathome - 4/13/2007 11:00:08 PM

AND seem to smirk...

6960. robertjayb - 4/13/2007 11:23:43 PM

For a real keep it simple program look into Dr. Peter Gott's no flour, no sugar diet.

The Skinny on Diets

6961. concerned - 4/13/2007 11:25:43 PM

Re. 6957 -

Clydefo -

Do insects have faces?

6962. concerned - 4/13/2007 11:32:06 PM

Why do producers of vegetarian replacements for meat, milk or egg foods feel it is necessary to price their products anywhere from 50% to 300% higher than the real thing? If they weren't more expensive, I'd buy them (at least much of the time). They're clearly cheaper to produce.

6963. clydefo - 4/14/2007 12:15:34 AM

I disavow any claim to moral superiority because I don't eat animals. It's just a health tip about avoiding unnecessary sources of protein and fat, mercury, animal hormones and antibiotics (things that cause our little girls to need more than training bras). I acknowledge it's optional and say it not with smugness but with a "do as I say, not as I do" attitude.

Nonetheless, and realizing that it may just be weak-minded sentimentality, I do sort of feel sorry for the whales and dolphins and seals. Imagine their anguish and disillusionment and terror at witnessing what their friends from Cozy Cove Marine Encounter Sanctuary are doing to all sea creatures. For sport as well as food; they don't bother to eat the Tarpon. I can't help feeling compassion for the plight of veal calves, foie gras geese, tenter hooked hogs listening to the screams of their litter mates as they advance to the slaughter. Restrictive poultry cages. All an unnecessary inefficient way to reprocess protein. We should just eat the grain ourselves rather than feed it to animals. Far cheaper and healthier.

But I know what you mean about those sanctimonious Vegans. They are menacing, aren't they, with all those smirks, tattoos and motorcycles?

6964. clydefo - 4/14/2007 12:34:00 AM

Do insects have faces?

O.K., I'll bite. Yes.

Maybe reprocessing protein to make fake meat actually costs more. And they are probably advocates of P.T. Barnum's marketing strategies.

6965. concerned - 4/14/2007 2:22:06 AM

Do insects have faces?

O.K., I'll bite. Yes.


Rather ambiguous sounding answer there. I wonder if anyone has ever come up with chocolate covered centipedes.

6966. Wombat - 4/14/2007 2:39:24 AM

Chocolate-covered ants, yes. Ditto fried grasshopers.

6967. clydefo - 4/14/2007 3:06:05 AM

Chocolate covered insects? Far too much fat and protein.

Only baked or grilled grasshoppers. No fried foods.

6968. judithathome - 4/14/2007 6:55:52 PM

Clyde, I wasn't picking on you or making fun...just posting my opinion about personal experience with some obnoxious vegans.

I will admit I feel guilty about eating meat at times; I don't eat veal, at least. But it chaps me when people decked out in leather pumps and carrying leather handbags nag at ME for eating meat. Again, don't mean you personally...though I've no idea what sort of handbag you carry. ;-)

6969. clydefo - 4/14/2007 9:27:21 PM

Handbags. Hummm. I'll pass. I'm "accessories challenged" and I lose things. But be assured, the bag I'm not going to carry is devoid of animal products. I certainly don't begrudge the Inuit and others their "leathers", especially since I am the owner of a genuine replica WWII leather bomber jacket. It's got a three mission "crush" so far.

6970. clydefo - 4/14/2007 9:52:35 PM

Hahaha...bless the straight-faced pun.

...chaps me when people decked out in leather...

6971. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 10:56:11 PM

There is some evidence that vegetarians live longer than meat eaters, but I always wonder if it isn't a function of overall health consciousness or correlations with nonsmoking and such. A linkage that does make sense is dioxin. It is a very toxic carcinogen that is everywhere. It is in grasses and grains but gets concentrated in the bodies of animals that eat them, and thus more concentrated in the bodies of human meat eaters.

But for those who prefer to avoid meat, schwarzbein has also put together a meatless program that provides adequate fats and proteins.

6972. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 10:57:08 PM

clydefo, I've heard others remark on the hormones in animals leading to premature adolescence in children. Mind you one of the key carriers is milk which appears generously in your listed typical diet.

6973. thoughtful - 4/14/2007 11:09:18 PM

arky,
the thyroid board is up and running again.
go to http://www.mediboard.com/forum

They have a thyroid 101 thread that is full of good info.

6974. jexster - 4/14/2007 11:20:00 PM

My cat has hyperthyroidism...just diagnosed...another story

The Bush administration following an old Cheney/Rumsfeld practice from the Nixon years has gutted the Consumer Products Safety Commission - staff cut 50% and the Commission stocked with lobbyist and regulated industry hacks

Number of consumer goods up 50%...

The program then as now - destroy mission effectiveness, diminish stakeholder support, then close agency

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