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7601. thoughtful - 7/24/2008 3:42:42 PM Solar pays at this point due to the subsidies. Without it, it is still cost prohibitive. Though there are some applications that continue to make sense. A buddy at work owns lots of land in the adirondacks and is nowhere near any grid so solar w/batteries is how he powers his cabin.
Under normal circumstances, though, you shouldn't have to make a lot of sacrifices to get the benefits from solar...unless you want to go totally off grid. Our area allows net metering so when we produce more than we need, our meter will spin backward. Also, if we go to time of day metering, we should make out even better as we'll be producing power during the peak usage time when rates are higher and using power during the off peak hours when rates are lower. Not bad.
Also, our house will have no 'sacrifices'...at least not from our pov. It will be smaller than the average 5000 to 8000 sq ft mcmansions they build in our area, but we don't consider that a sacrifice at all. We want a smaller home...less to heat, less to clean, less to insure, less to tax....
The only sacrifice we are making is the home is expensive to build...geothermal, solar, icynene, low-e windows, tankless hot water heaters all cost more than standard alternatives. And we are adding a lot of custom features to the house that costs $$$. But from the look and feel of the place, other than the solar panels on the roof, the house will look and feel and operate like a normal house. Except it won't have an oil tank and it won't have outside air compressors for central air. 7602. arkymalarky - 7/24/2008 4:22:04 PM Unfortunately I already have a home equity loan, so that's out until the house is paid for. Which isn't too long, since our utilities aren't very high now. I also want to replace our hot water heaters with tankless ones. That we can do now.
I don't get the appeal of big houses. Ours is 2000sq ft and is way more than enough for two people. If I'm ever alone I want something tiny. 7603. iiibbb - 7/24/2008 5:06:04 PM We live in an 1800ft home. It's a little cramped from a storage front. If it had a basement it'd be perfect. I also need a shop so I can get out of the garage. That would need climate control, but I probably wouldn't keep it anywhere near what is home-comfortable. 7604. jexster - 7/24/2008 10:13:48 PM I think Concerned wins the Climate Change argument
Arctic has enough oil to power USA for twelve years
I'm a faggot and I'll be dead by the time that reservoir's depleted and another discovered at the South pole
Why should I give a fuck about AC's grandkids, polar bears and fucking baby seals???? 7605. jexster - 7/24/2008 10:14:33 PM 7606. jexster - 7/27/2008 4:46:33 PM The Indian "Volkswage" $2500 Nano
 7607. jexster - 7/27/2008 6:25:49 PM Your windfall profit dollars at work
Play EnergyVille - an Interactive Game brought to you as a public service by Chevron 7608. concerned - 7/28/2008 4:26:07 PM Hydrogen is a great energy delivery system, but you still have to generate it using electricity (where do you get the electricity)
The short answer to that is 'nuclear power'. 7609. concerned - 7/28/2008 6:27:32 PM Number of gas and oil wells in Lake Erie: 480.
Number of gas and oil wells on US side of Lake Erie: 0. 7610. concerned - 7/28/2008 6:34:21 PM Re. 7590 -
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I know you don't like Lomborg's take on climate science, but is there anything you actually disagree with him about, factually? 7611. thoughtful - 7/28/2008 6:39:09 PM w or w/out nuclear power, electricity generation is far more efficient than internal combustion engines so even with using current technologies, we're better off with electric cars. 7612. concerned - 7/28/2008 6:51:53 PM Number of gas and oil wells in Lake Erie: 480.
Number of gas and oil wells on US side of Lake Erie: 0.
This is nothing to feel righteous about. 7613. jexster - 7/28/2008 7:42:27 PM Tata Nano Sets the Auto Standard
Macaca Mobile Debuts to Rave Reviews 7614. concerned - 7/28/2008 8:35:16 PM Makes good pothole filler when hit by another vehicle, too. 7615. concerned - 7/28/2008 8:42:19 PM Acceleration: 0 - 43mph: 14 seconds
Top Speed: 65mph
7616. alistairConnor - 7/28/2008 9:22:48 PM Sounds fine to me. If they start selling these little suckers in Yurrup, they'll sink four or five auto makers... who have been conspiring to keep the price of an entry-level car up to 8000 euros or so. 7617. jexster - 7/31/2008 6:23:52 PM Pickens on his energy plan
7618. jexster - 8/1/2008 2:33:31 PM Major Discovery at MIT Promises to Unleash Solar Power Revolution 7619. wonkers2 - 8/1/2008 3:38:11 PM Wow! I hope that one works out. It could save us from self-immolation. 7620. concerned - 8/1/2008 6:01:25 PM I've already read about this. Interesting that there's no mention that it exceeds the maximum 50% efficiency of electrolysis, which suggests, given the general adulatory tone of this puff piece, that it doesn't. That's a lot of wasted energy.
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