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8515. wonkers2 - 12/6/2007 10:12:37 PM Art, Fair Use or Piracy? 8516. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/6/2007 10:53:22 PM For a wonderful read about Prince and the poseurs who infest the NY art scene, check out the latest issue of The New republic.
If you want a flavor of his work, try this:
How the Art World Lost Its Mind to Money - Laissez-Faire Aesthetics
8517. wonkers2 - 12/6/2007 11:45:32 PM Interesting. Thanks. I guess art is whatever sells.
8518. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/7/2007 12:37:32 AM I guess art is whatever sells.
True and authentic art is a visual language with a long and complex history. The world is inundated now with a morass of commercial junk that passes for it because it takes genuine education to recognize it– most people don't have the time or the inclination to learn to see the difference between the two. The avant garde has become the derrière garde and rich fools want to be seen as cultured collectors.
Sorry–you got me started! 8519. concerned - 12/7/2007 12:55:04 AM It seems to me that, with the exception of utilitarian art, artists appear to abhor repeating the modes and styles of expression previously used in art, and with modern day society's extensive means of documenting and categorizing art, not only is it becoming increasingly hard to come up with truly original art concepts but artists are very aware of that & I think it tends to inhibit them.
Just a non-artist's uninformed opinion. 8520. David Ehrenstein - 12/7/2007 1:27:35 AM I think to a large degree you're right. 8521. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/7/2007 2:06:38 AM It's a valid conclusion connie, but any genuine artistic discipline, like painting, literature, film, music, dance, etc., has infinite possibilities for an the artist with original vision. And there's the rub, because it takes decades to develop and refine one's unique way of expressing their soul.
The problem is that most young "artists" today are undisciplined and lazy. It's easier to scheme about how to get maximum attention with a shocking gesture that short-circuits the thinking of the easily fooled general public, than to actually learn a discipline and compete with the masters of the particular medium--be they living or dead.
8522. TheWizardOfWhimsy - 12/8/2007 6:32:54 AM Nobody care! 8523. wonkers2 - 12/10/2007 4:35:11 AM Merle Hazard's "H-E-D-G-E" and "In the Hamptons" 8524. wonkers2 - 12/20/2007 6:45:35 PM Christmas in Richistan 8525. judithathome - 12/21/2007 6:49:37 AM What mall is that?
8526. wonkers2 - 12/21/2007 3:50:46 PM The "Somerset Collection" in Troy, Michigan, incredibly a suburb of Detroit which, as you know, is in a major recession with unemployment the highest in the country. I wonder where all the money is coming from. 8527. jexster - 1/11/2008 8:59:26 PM I saw one of the concerts on this tour back in 1970 or 71ish
Means I saw this...damn am I old...boy was I wasted!!!
8528. alistairConnor - 1/12/2008 12:03:15 AM Re-post from politics thread, it will hang around longer here.
Hey Jex... also Arky, Robt, Con, Wonk... mzzNo... Judith! David!
I have a girlfriend who is a street theatre artist, she is planning a visit to the USA to coincide with the presidential elections. She is creating a new one-woman show, Madame Orange (she has previously done Rose, Madame Lejaune, etc...)
Her stuff is intensely, but not overtly, political. She is becoming something of a big shot in her milieu, lots of international festivals and stuff.
Anyway, I will be trying to herd her to this site, to get her up to speed, and perhaps a few useful contacts... she wants to visit "unlikely" locations. She has occasionally been arrested during performances, so good contact with the local authorities is a definite plus. 8529. wonkers2 - 1/12/2008 12:05:59 AM If she comes to Detroit, The Cap'n'll take care of her every need. 8530. alistairConnor - 1/12/2008 1:59:26 AM Thank you Wonk... I will warn her about the Cap'n. 8531. Ms. No - 1/12/2008 11:34:55 AM I don't think I have any "ins" with the local authorities, but I've certainly got a futon she's welcome to crash on and I can show her the best coffee and bars in Sacramento as well as hook her up with some local artists. 8532. Ms. No - 1/12/2008 11:43:21 AM I know you have to get busking liscenses for street venues in LA and probably for San Francisco as well. I don't know what the ordinances are for Sacramento, but I could probably find out. I tend to think they aren't very strict here.
I know that for Santa Monica and Venice Beach (in SoCal) they have a lot of regulars who apply, but I think it's on a first come first served basis. There are rules in Santa Monica about how far you must be from other performers and certain businesses as well as public facilities and you also have to move around every half hour or so. You don't have to move in Venice or on the Strip --- or at least I don't think so since there are people who've been performing in the exact same spots for 20 years.
All of that information should be available online or via email inquiry once she figures out where exactly she's wanting to perform. 8533. judithathome - 1/12/2008 4:11:45 PM Alistair, she would probably get more exposure in Dallas so I'll mention to Jen to read here...in my city, we rarely have street theatre, just bands at festivals. And the festivals are usuallly in summer. However, I think people do street theatre in Dallas in this one area, Deep Ellum...but Jen would know more about that than I.
One date that is huge here in Fort Worth is the Main Street festival...it's in April and they close down Main Street for 4 days. All of the downtown part, anyhow. As many as 600,000 people show up. It's a vetted art show, with artists from all over the country selling their wares from booths. She might be able to enter as a "strolling artist" or something. I can put her in touch with the committee but as to police, I only have influence with our little village force. ;-)
However, she could call on us if she ended up in the slammer...ha! 8534. judithathome - 1/12/2008 4:14:47 PM Here's a link and it DOES mention street performers and performance art!
Main Street Fort Worth
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