10241. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 10:38:02 PM Arky - We don't know if he was shot without reason, we also don't know who initiated the physical confrontation. There should have been a homicide investigation because one person was killed by another, the investigation might or might not have resulted in charges. 10242. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:50:01 PM I said he was followed without reason. Unless being a black teen boy is a rrason. 10243. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 10:52:15 PM And I said an arrest, not charges. 10244. vonKreedon - 4/12/2012 11:24:23 PM Oops, my bad. Thanks for the correction. 10245. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 11:42:01 PM And love or hate Sharpton, nothing was happening until he got on it. That's what activism is all about. 10246. arkymalarky - 4/12/2012 11:43:01 PM That was in resppnse to Jen's post. 10247. Wombat - 4/13/2012 1:07:10 AM Arky,
Sharpton and Jackson jumped on the bandwagon. The protests had already begun and were taking root. 10248. arkymalarky - 4/13/2012 2:03:43 AM Actually the Martin family called Sharpton and requested his help. I don't know about Jackson. I haven't seen much of him. 10249. iiibbb - 4/13/2012 2:18:38 AM I think they're going to have a hard time proving 2nd degree murder... especially Florida's definition. Manslaughter seems the more provable charge.
At any rate. It is playing out much as I guessed. Zimmerman hung himself when he exited the vehicle, pursued someone alone, in the dark, in the rain.
I don't see how SYG defense is going to hold based on what facts have been shown to date.
It was a bad shoot. People on the firearm site I have frequented (more in the pass) have rallied a bit behind Zimmerman now but I think it's a vocal minority. There seem to be a bunch of people questioning Zim's actions because they recognize defending a bad shoot undermines their rights. 10250. iiibbb - 4/18/2012 6:20:44 PM Harold Fish
I wouldn't have done what Zimmerman did - he was a fool to get out of the car, follow a stranger with unknown motives, alone...
...but I could totally see myself doing something similar what Harold Fish did - Fish was far more justified in my opinion, was still convicted of 2nd degree murder, spent 3 years in jail and spent a butt-load to get out, and was eventually acquitted.
Z-man has a tough row to hoe. 10251. judithathome - 4/18/2012 7:29:25 PM Switch the roles in this and tell me that if it had been Trayvon with the gun and Zimmerman ending up dead...do you think there would have been an investigation?
Damned skippy there would have.
This police department had a history of letting white crime slide in regard to black victims. Just sayin'.
10252. iiibbb - 4/18/2012 7:40:24 PM The police bungling/racism regarding the case is independent of the technicalities of Zimmerman's foolishness.
I think the police dept was negligent if not racist.
I don't actually think Zimmerman is an outright racist - or in the heat of this moment was a racist - I happen to think he would have followed/shot any teen. He was just a gung-ho cop wanna-be.
10253. concerned - 4/18/2012 8:08:16 PM Notably absent in any recounting I have seen of this is where exactly the deadly altercation occurred. I suppose most of the drama would evaporate if it turned out that it happened right next to Zimmerman's van. 10254. vonKreedon - 4/18/2012 8:42:40 PM Martin was killed in a walkway between two sets of apartment buildings:
F marks the spot of the killing. This is from an aparently well reasoned piece on the missing 2:30 between the end of Zimmerman's 911 call and 911 calls from neighbors. 10255. vonKreedon - 4/18/2012 9:24:14 PM Despite having an aging portrait in his attic, Dick Clark is dead at 82. 10256. concerned - 4/18/2012 9:51:33 PM That's just my dad's age. Wasn't Dick Clark known as the world's oldest teenager about 25 year ago? 10257. OhioSTOPAS - 4/18/2012 9:57:10 PM I'd give Dick Clark's life a 100. You could dance to it. 10258. concerned - 4/25/2012 11:44:08 PM Well, the MSM can no longer call George Zimmerman a 'White Hispanic', now that it turns out he has some black ancestry.
Soooo...., what is the proper term for him, Mustefino-Hispanic, or Quintroon-Hispanic or perhaps, Hexadecaroon-Hispanic? 10259. arkymalarky - 4/26/2012 4:03:43 AM Murderer 10260. concerned - 4/26/2012 4:08:29 AM Why do I think you wouldn't have a chance to make the cut for Zimmerman's jury?
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