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10555. robertjayb - 7/27/2004 7:21:58 AM

That site seems exactly what is needed, Judith. I will pass the link along to the daughters and they can have a fine wrangle over making a selection. Thanks.

10556. Absensia - 7/27/2004 7:25:22 AM

Hmmmm, if you don't have enough shelf space, there is always Ikea for another bookcase, Ms No, if you have enough wall space. Otherwise, I say "store" them, assuming you have some storage space. I have none of the above. I bought some long boxes that fit under my bed and stored things in them, some sweaters, etc., and also some things like yours that I couldn't get rid of. I also got rid of everything I could, and I keep weeding out things. P.S. I still have two boxes to unpack from the move two years ago.

10557. Ms. No - 7/27/2004 7:45:09 AM

I have only two closets --- both of them the 3x3 hanging stuff up type. Fortunately I don't have many clothes that I actually need to hang up so I can devote one closet entirely to storage.

I have 30 under the bed boxes full of books. I can only fit 10 of them under my bed. Time to finally sort and discard some books. Sob!

I also don't have much wall space --- lots and lots of windows, which pleases me, but it makes it hard to hang pictures or position bookshelves.

There's more space than it feels like right now, but I have to get over the idea that I can't store non-kitchen items in the kitchen. You know, up on those really high top shelves in the cupboard which you can't put anything useful on anyway? That's a perfect place for storing things that I really don't need to ever see but can't feel right about discarding.

I just need to get off my duff and move rather than bemoaning. I go along quite well for awhile and then I stall out and just sit in awe at how much is still left to do. I just unpacked a box last night that has been moving with me for nearly 8 years. Yikes.

10558. arkymalarky - 7/27/2004 7:46:34 AM

I've been trying to deal with piles that have accumulated over the past two or three years while I was working on all this ed crap and Bob's dad was so sick, and I'm having a devil of a time figuring out what to do with them. I have the space if I just want to chunk them somewhere (which may have to work as a temporary solution before this weekend), but I don't, so it's going to take figuring and work getting spots set up for them.

In the meantime, when you and Keoni come, Judith, cover your heads before you open any cabinets or closet doors. ;-)

10559. arkymalarky - 7/27/2004 7:49:50 AM

I just need to get off my duff and move rather than bemoaning. I go along quite well for awhile and then I stall out and just sit in awe at how much is still left to do.

That sounds so much like me it isn't even funny. I didn't realize how much I'd neglected until I had time to look around, then it just seemed too overwhelming to tackle. Once it's done and you can work on the look and the details you can add that are exciting, that's a lot of fun, so I use it as my carrot.

10560. Absensia - 7/27/2004 7:59:02 AM

Wow, you two sound just like me. I clear places to store stuff, but get lazy and put clutter on those places before I get around to storing anything there and it all starts again. Before I moved, I had to get rid of a lot of my books. That really hurt, especially my cookbook collection. I spent a lot of time online, checking which recipes were online so the sting was not as great as it could be. I also gave my son a lot of my books so it wasn't like losing them.

10561. arkymalarky - 7/27/2004 8:08:06 AM

My problem is stuff I use regularly that really needs easy accessibility. While I was working on trying to preserve rural schools the last year or so I had stuff thrown everywhere and was frantically working on it every spare minute. Now I still need to work on it and we're in the middle of several major projects, but I don't want it strewn everywhere. In fact, it's the source of 90% of what I'm trying to deal with. Everything else pretty much has a place but desperately needs going through and culled and reorganized--something I usually do in the summer but didn't the last two summers.

It's really amazing what two summers can do to put things in a mess.

I've got a major storage area for books, but I need to go through them. I'm not very sentimental about mine any more. I want those suckers gone. My dad has such a collection, though, I have access to whatever I want to read. I've only been interested in non-fiction and research stuff since before all the consolidation mess started. I guess because I taught lit for so long I get my jones for all that at work.

10562. arkymalarky - 7/27/2004 8:09:04 AM

I'm not a neat person, btw, but I'm one who takes a mower to my stuff regularly and when I don't for a couple of years it really works on my attitude.

10563. wabbit - 7/27/2004 8:15:41 AM

Ms. No, I have a similar problem (ok, not really a problem...) with books and not enough shelf space. I've got a shelf running all the way around the living room about 10" below the ceiling. In the bedroom, bookshelves go right across the window - no curtain required. Some are stacked into piles and serve as side tables. No wet glasses allowed!

10564. arkymalarky - 7/27/2004 8:24:15 AM

When Mose cleans she takes no prisoners. I quit trying to go through her bags of stuff to see what she was getting rid of that I wanted to keep, but I rescued her children's books and some toddler stuff when we moved here. Bob's worse than she is, even though he's a major packrat. He hates it when you say it, but every cranny of space that holds his stuff is brimming with junk. When it starts getting to him he'll dump everything and then wish later he had something he'd chunked.

10565. jexster - 7/27/2004 9:01:58 AM

Robt..I can fix your cousin in law up with a spiffy



and a dashiki if ya want

10566. Macnas - 7/27/2004 4:17:13 PM

Very hip.

10567. Macnas - 7/27/2004 4:17:29 PM

Sorry.

10568. Magoseph - 7/27/2004 7:54:53 PM

Hello there, Mac, you have been super-busy lately, haven't you? I spent the evening for once watching the Democratic convention. I missed Monday night coverage. How are you?

10569. judithathome - 7/27/2004 9:46:57 PM

Wabbit, you can get glass panes and put them on top of the "side table" stacks of books. That way, you can rest drinks and stuff on them without damage.

From one who knows how to utilize surfaces.

10570. judithathome - 7/27/2004 9:52:22 PM

Arky, Keoni came home in an SUV from the rental place. It feels enormous. If you need ANYTHING from Texas, let us know...god knows, we have room to lug anything up there with us now.

10571. Macnas - 7/27/2004 10:26:06 PM

Hello Mago.

Yes I have been pretty busy of late, I have an inspection team on site right now, as follow up to my recent underground services review. So I'm out and about quite a lot.

I listened to some of the Dem.Con. on the wireless yesterday. The popularity of Clinton came through loud and clear, more so than the popularity of Kerry even...

10572. marjoribanks - 7/27/2004 11:18:12 PM

Mac,

I hope you heard some of Obama, and you will be reminded of the name as time passes. His speech was electrifying, probably the best political speech that I have witnessed in several years of following this stuff.

Edwards, in my estimation, is likely to raise the roof again. It's a showcase of some of the best of the USA, this Dem gathering.

(Kerry, well, he has some tough stemwinding acts to follow)

10573. Magoseph - 7/27/2004 11:19:06 PM

Clinton looks terrific these days, except for a little puffing under his eyes. He is trim and looks "bien dans sa peau", as my brother said. Yes, he is a huge star everywhere he goes. I hope that he watches his back, though.

10574. Magoseph - 7/27/2004 11:21:08 PM

You know, Mac, things aren't the same for me in the morning if I can't find you anywhere. Thanks for answering my query.

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