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10696. judithathome - 2/14/2013 11:09:17 PM

Check out the documentary done by CNBC on Remington weapons...

10697. judithathome - 2/14/2013 11:10:52 PM

Link:

Remington Under Fire

10698. iiibbb - 2/18/2013 5:46:31 PM

Common Sense Gun Control?

People why the NRA gets a little crazy... this is why...

10699. iiibbb - 2/18/2013 6:02:17 PM

They claim the clause was a mistake, but an alert reader finds the same phrasing in previously submitted bills

Sheesh.

10700. arkymalarky - 2/18/2013 9:36:38 PM

People have to pay attention but nothing excuses the NRA.

10701. iiibbb - 2/18/2013 9:48:44 PM

that's true ... lazy post on my part.

try

"People wonder why the NRA ranks swell so much in spite of the crazy.... this is why...."

10702. iiibbb - 2/18/2013 9:49:51 PM

I'm guessing that kind of sound bite is worth 100 times the political mileage as anything crazy the NRA says.

10703. arkymalarky - 2/18/2013 9:56:20 PM

I think they will lose in the long run over how they have conducted themselves. But they're the only game in town so they're the default spokespeople for gun owners, which is bad for gun owners.

10704. arkymalarky - 2/18/2013 9:57:15 PM

But despite that I doubt stuff will get through in legislation that isn't very mainstream.

10705. iiibbb - 2/18/2013 11:57:33 PM

The underlying back story is that legislators sign onto bills without reading them.

10706. arkymalarky - 2/19/2013 12:23:34 AM

Oh I know that's true, but they should be more careful here because they know others are combing them.

10707. robertjayb - 2/19/2013 7:54:16 PM

Is there more bang, bang or is our pitiful media just paying attention?

TUSTIN, Calif. (AP) -- A shooting spree through Orange County, Calif., left four people dead Tuesday, including the shooter, and several others injured.

The shootings began at 4:45 a.m. when deputies responding to a call found a female shot multiple times in a house in Ladera Ranch, said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino.

Three more people were fatally shot in the next 25 minutes after carjackings in Tustin and Santa Ana, according to the Orange County Register (http://bit.ly/12HgccN ).

Amormino could not immediately confirm that the subsequent shootings were related to carjackings.

The suspect shot himself at an intersection in Tustin, the sheriff's spokesman said.

10708. iiibbb - 2/19/2013 8:03:06 PM

just found this... and it has some interesting stuff.

violent death project, US


the thing that jumped right out at me was this map.




which is really interesting because the North generally leans liberal and non-gun-owning, and the South generally leans conservative and gun-owning. Both sides of the gun debate like to throw the N/S and city/urban patterns of homicide in each others' faces. But what this map really seems to show is that it's due to climate. Murders happen more where people get out more.... in southern latitudes and in cities.

So neither side probably has it right when discussing regional violent crime... it really seems to come down to exposure and opportunity.


I'm looking forward to looking this whole site over.

Violent Death Project

10709. judithathome - 2/19/2013 8:44:51 PM

Don't you think it might have something to do with populatiion more than with weather?

10710. iiibbb - 2/19/2013 8:53:57 PM

They are covaried because people tend to live toward the equator for the same reason... climate.

However, the pattern in the US between populated and unpopulated areas doesn't necessarily hold. The Northwest for instance has a pretty decent population density, but pretty low homicide rates.

10711. Wombat - 2/19/2013 9:20:11 PM

Canada also has strict gun control and Mexico is essentially lawless in parts.

10712. iiibbb - 2/19/2013 9:20:38 PM

Canada doesn't have particularly strict laws.

10713. Wombat - 2/19/2013 10:53:22 PM

Canadian gun laws are less strict than in some US jurisdictions, but the laws are applied uniformly across Canada. The Canadian laws are more restrictive of handguns, and the police are involved in a way that would make US gunowners uneasy from a constitutional standpoint.

From a surprisingly temperate article by my old schoolmate David Kopel: http://www.guncite.com/journals/dkcgc.html

10714. iiibbb - 2/19/2013 11:09:39 PM

It is weakening in Canada due to expense and noncompliance... and confiscations only made compliance even less likely.


Bill C-68

The Firearms Act was created by Bill C-68, An Act Respecting Firearms and Other Weapons, which was introduced in 1993, and aimed at the licensing of all gun owners and registration of all firearms. The bill also classified replica firearms as prohibited devices, with those already owned being grandfathered. It was passed by Parliament and given Royal Assent in 1995. The Canadian Firearms Centre was established in 1996 to oversee the administration of its measures.[6]

and


The registration portion of the Firearms Act was implemented in 1995 and the deadline for gun owners to register their non-restricted firearms was January 1, 2003.[7] Compliance was a dismal failure: Over 70% of all firearms in Canada were never registered.

10715. alistairconnor - 2/20/2013 3:40:36 PM

No north/south gradient in Europe.
Among EU countries, the highest death rate is the Netherlands (slightly north of centre), followed by... Finland and Portugal.

(I'm tempted to say : bang goes that theory)

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