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11494. arkymalarky - 12/5/2014 12:56:27 AM

I can believe that. I can't believe more of that ilk was elected to do that type of thing in congress for the next 2 years minimum.

11495. judithathome - 12/5/2014 2:23:29 AM

I can....the people who control media get the message out that favors their beliefs.

There's a reason FOX News is leading in the evening news ratings...more people watch it than watch actual news.

There is a genius in the Republican party named Frank Luntz...he is a genius because he understands and relies on "buzz words/phrases"...every day, he sends out a "word/phrase of the day" email and throughout the day, you will notice every single Republican repeats that word or phrase in the media. These words sink in to the people who refuse to think for themselves and soon, it becomes "the truth". Because everyone is saying it...on TV!

Does it matter that half the shit Frank Luntz outs out there are lies? Evidently not.

11496. arkymalarky - 12/5/2014 2:31:48 AM

yes, luntz has been at it a long time. fox had been losing viewership, but every business that has a TV has it on fox. that infuriates me.

11497. judithathome - 12/5/2014 2:34:40 AM

Here's something really funny about Luntz: Frank Luntz Caught Telling The Truth!

11498. judithathome - 12/5/2014 11:58:15 PM

I hope this opening to last night's Daily Show can be viewed without the "overplay" of another segment....

Jon Stewart: Hey, Are You My Secret Santa?

11499. arkymalarky - 12/10/2014 2:39:17 AM

When I agree with him, it's ok, but I never really like him, and when I disagree with him, I'm so frustrated when I can't just jump into the tv and throttle him. Chris Matthews. Ugh!

11500. arkymalarky - 12/11/2014 2:39:29 AM

Now if you really need money, you know, for something important like maybe a major surgery or something like that, robbing banks really works to get that money.

I don't know why the concepts of wrong, antithetical to basic values, and not having a leg to stand on in dealing with nations that disrespect human rights, etcetera etcetera are so totally lost on Chris Matthews. Whether or not torture works is not why we shouldn't be doing it. Not to mention there's never been evidence that it works. Anything with more than a single layer of complexity is completely lost on that maroon.

11501. judithathome - 12/11/2014 8:37:54 PM

I guess I'm hearing a different maroon...I think he's ridiculing Cheney and others who are claiming torture worked and are saying the Senate committee lied.

11502. Ms. No - 12/11/2014 9:52:34 PM

There are lots of things that seem like they should be true and even that people want to be true, but that doesn't mean they are true. Isn't that one of the foundational elements of Cargo Cult Science?

11503. arkymalarky - 12/11/2014 9:59:19 PM

it's the fact he even thinks it is a debatable issue, and he pissed me off in how he addressed guests wrt the issue, including Joan whatsherdrip of salon and one of the detainee's lawyers.

11504. arkymalarky - 12/11/2014 11:27:21 PM

Walsh...I could not remember her last name.

11505. arkymalarky - 12/12/2014 3:45:33 AM

Dick Cheney should never be mentioned in the news without prefacing the story with a background of his evasion of service in Vietnam. He talks awfully tough to have been such a coward.

11506. iiibbb - 12/12/2014 4:34:34 AM

The effectiveness or ineffectiveness of torture matters not at all. It’s a red herring.

It doesn’t matter if you're right or wrong about the effectiveness of torture.

It doesn’t matter if your motives are patriotic and your heart is pure.

It doesn’t matter if your cause is just.

It doesn’t matter how terrible your enemy.

Listen to me, it doesn’t matter if you’re a man of God, if you molest a child, you’re a goddamned child molester.

And it comes down to this: If you engage in torture, you're a torturer.

And you live in a country that tortures people.

It’s really just that simple.

11507. robertjayb - 12/12/2014 4:37:22 AM

But Arky, he explained:

"I had other priorities in the 60's than military service."

...War criminal Dick Cheney to the Washington Post in 1989.

11508. arkymalarky - 12/12/2014 5:25:50 AM

yay 3i!!!!


exactly, Robert! but he never seemed to flinch at sending others.

11509. arkymalarky - 12/12/2014 5:26:30 AM

of all of them, he's the most disgusting and despicable, by far.

11510. Ms. No - 12/12/2014 7:23:37 PM

I'm sick and tired of all this "War on Terror" bullshit. That's like a "War on Crazy" and has about as much chance of success.

We've spent billions of dollars and tens of thousands of lives and are not any safer from the kind of attacks that really prompted us to begin this whole circus.

Just as more prisons aren't the answer to reducing crime, more invasive searches and restrictive security measures are not the answer to reducing terrorism --- but it sure gives some folks a chubby.

And I'm definitely on board with the fact that state-sanctioned brutality for any reason perpetuates a brutality of mind that is made manifest in the national psyche.

11511. arkymalarky - 12/12/2014 8:12:46 PM

very well said

11512. judithathome - 12/12/2014 11:35:31 PM

I think I was responding to something completely different to Chris Matthews...the link in my post upthread to John Stewart had nothing to do with Matthews and torture...at least on my screen....

11513. judithathome - 12/12/2014 11:36:44 PM

Matthews is rude to everyone on his show...I agree.

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