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14202. iiibbb - 3/17/2005 7:48:37 PM

I am excited, because this paper was really the centerpiece to my whole disertation. I came up with a new type of data analysis which solves, partially, a very difficult and highly confounded question.

This was my 'good idea'... I was beginning to wonder if it would be validated or not.

There are 2 ways you can get a PhD... the way they tell you is that you need to substantially advance or contribute to the science. The way most people wind up doing is have a good idea that doesn't quite work out and do an exhaustive evalution of why. It can be hard to get pubs out of the second way... so this is really big.

I will resubmit a related paper next week. Now I just have 2 others to write and that'll make 5 total that come from the dissertation.

14203. thoughtful - 3/17/2005 8:06:48 PM

Wow! That's excellent and impressive!

Congrats!

14204. Magoseph - 3/17/2005 9:41:58 PM

Good work, iiibbb, very happy for you.

14205. arkymalarky - 3/18/2005 3:18:46 AM

Good deal, 3i3b! Congratulations!

14206. arkymalarky - 3/18/2005 3:22:14 AM

I feel for you, Mags. I think Alistair's right, but it's hard not to let that stuff get to you, which is I think the main reason people do it.

14207. alistairconnor - 3/18/2005 10:01:50 AM

Hi 5, iii!

Now... can you write a hundred-word summary of your neat idea, intelligible to the likes of us?


(should be worth extra points for the doctorate!)

14208. Magoseph - 3/18/2005 1:11:55 PM

Good idea, Ali.

I don’t even know why Fridays are good days for me—maybe it is because they were when I worked. I feel liberated every Friday and I think of the weekend although I already know what is going to happen: fish fry is a regular event when we meet with family usually and reading practically the whole time away is the other immutable action we both indulge in because we do nothing of what we should be doing, like making beds and doing dishes.

14209. Ms. No - 3/18/2005 6:26:23 PM

I'm counting down to Acapulco. We leave a week from tomorrow so I've got this weekend to get all my crap together for the trip.

The only thing I have left to buy is sandals. The sorting of what clothes to take will be a lenghty process which is odd for me. Generally I can pack in about ten minutes for most strips, but I don't vacation at the beach much.....hell, I haven't been to a beach vacation in more than 10 years. I'm not used to packing for that kind of thing.

I've been tempted to buy a digital camera before I go, but I really shouldn't. I take pretty good photos with my current camera and my brother will have his digital with him so I should save the money for now, but man oh man I've got the "I-wants".

I may not be able to control myself.

14210. PelleNilsson - 3/18/2005 7:53:03 PM

Yes, the question of suitable initial clothes for strips at the beach cannot be easy.

14211. Ms. No - 3/18/2005 8:14:03 PM

Well, I'm pretty casual most of the time. I'm a blue-jeans kind of person rather than a color-coordinated sweater set sort of girl. And even though I live in LA, it's been cold here (well, for us) for the last few months so summer clothes haven't even been an option and none of the stuff I could've worn last year will stay on this year so it's rather more of a dilemma than one would expect.

Found a bunch of flowy cotton skirts and a couple of blouses all of which can be worn over a swimsuit if needed. But I know we'll probably go out someplace nice a couple times that week as well so I can't spend all my time looking like a bum in cut-offs, you know?

14212. Ms. No - 3/18/2005 8:14:38 PM

but I can't tell you how much more I'd rather spend money on a digital camera and tripod than on clothing.

14213. PelleNilsson - 3/18/2005 8:28:18 PM

Mind my words. You will find that you have seriously overpacked.

14214. wonkers2 - 3/18/2005 8:30:02 PM

Forgive my prejudice, but my experience indicates that many or even most women over-pack.

14215. thoughtful - 3/18/2005 9:08:03 PM

Generally I can pack in about ten minutes for most strips

(Pelle, I think she missed your pun off the typo, so I'll try again).

I thought if you were stripping, you didn't need to pack anything...

I find that most people (not just women) overpack for trips. Especially beach trips where one is expected to be pretty casual almost all the time...except maybe one nice sundress that can take you to all kinds of restaurants.

When I travel, I typically select 3 basic colors that go together and then buy only those things that work with it. For example, tan, navy and red. one each top, one each bottom. (The tops don't have to be solid, but should contain some or all of those colors.) You now have 9 outfits out of 6 pieces of clothing. Throw in a light-weight jacket that coordinates...either one of those colors or something neutral like white or gray... and you have doubled it to 18 outfits. That's 18 outfits out of 7 pieces of clothing. Because all the colors go with navy, you can just wear navy shoes for more formal, leather sandals for casual. Throw in a scarf that contains all of those colors and you can now be more casual or more dressed up with each of those outfits. Add one pair of jeans and you're done.

The tops/pants/jacket selection are a function of the type of vacation, eg turtlenecks for winter, tanks and tees for summer. The selection should also reflect how formal/casual the vacation will be.

Then you throw in a few things depending on the vacation like bathing suit and cover up or sweater for mountain trips.

I have travelled easily for 2 weeks with one carry-on and one tote by packing this way. Not only is it very efficient packing but it's easier on the budget...maybe you can afford both the clothes and the camera!

14216. iiibbb - 3/19/2005 4:37:08 PM

Message # 14207

Basically, my dissertation was about whether the logging disturbances associated wet-weather harvesting affect long-term soil-site productivity. In a nutshell, does all the rutting and soil disturbance affect whether the site will continue to grow trees as well in a subsequent rotation (that is the time between harvests.. ~20 years for Southern Pine grown in the Southeast... ~40-80 years for the Douglas Fir in the Norwest).

The problem is that this is a highly confounded question. The growth in one rotation vs. another is affected by climate, silvicultural technology, genetic tree improvement (tree breeding) etc. Therefore you can't simply compare the production of a wet- and dry- harvested stand and tell very much becuase sites might not be prefectly equal. You can't subtract prior production from current production because of those 3 confounding factors. Basically, the gains in technology totally mask the fact you're degrading the actual site.

Well... I figured out a way to make this comparison, but free myself of the confounding issues. It's really a rather simple solution... but probably a little difficult to explain. It also doesn't completely solve the problem... but it does provide a way to say whether two treatments differ in terms of affecting soil-site productivity, which is a very important question.

The cool thing was that I originally presented this idea to a national meeting a year and a half ago. One of the more 'famous' guys there came up to me after my talk and said he's been coming to these meetings for 20-30 years and this was the most original idea on this topic he'd seen in 15. I was so pumped after that because I was specifically interested in how this particular person would respond to it.

Anyway... I was a little suprised how much resistance I got (from one reviewer really) as I tried to publish it; it's a double-blind review. Anyway, this guy didn't get it because in order to answer the 'important question' I have to sacrifice some other information that people generally want to see. The reviewer got caught up in this so he started to crap all over everything.

Anyhow... it'll be out there now. I think it's going to change the way people evaluate long-term productivity issues. Certainly it's going to be a valuable tool.


Sorry... more than 100 words.

14217. wonkers2 - 3/19/2005 5:17:14 PM

Way to go!

14218. wonkers2 - 3/19/2005 5:24:34 PM

iiibbb. You may appreciate this bit of sarcasm from E. L. Doctorow's "Ragtime:"

"In the paper was the news of Teddy Roosevelt's African safari. The great conservationist had bagged seventeen lions, eleven elephants, twenty-one rhinos, eight hippos, nine giraffes, forty-seven gazelles, twenty-nine zebras, and kudu, wildebeest, impala, eland, waterbuck, wart hog and bushbuck, beyond number."

14219. Ms. No - 3/19/2005 5:46:38 PM

Congrats iiibbb! That's great news!

14220. Ms. No - 3/19/2005 5:50:21 PM

Thoughtful,

You're right, I didn't see the typo and therefore the pun went over my head completely.

I haven't overpacked for a trip in years --- since I started traveling on my own, actually. My tactic is pretty similar to yours --- dont' pack anything that can't be worn at least 3 ways. Also, I pack socks and underwear that I don't mind throwing away so it creates a bit of room in my bag on the trip back for small purchases.

14221. PelleNilsson - 3/19/2005 5:58:58 PM

Was this a purely theoretical exercise, iiibbb, or did you try it out on some representative tracts?

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