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15022. judithathome - 5/18/2005 6:18:15 PM

The lilies of the valley I had in Germany looked like thoughtful's first picture...such lovely and sweet smelling little beauties; hard to believe they are poisonous.

15023. thoughtful - 5/18/2005 6:23:02 PM

they also make a terrific ground cover for shady areas...if you don't mind them taking over everything. my roadside rock garden is just loaded with them...and i guess its shady enough for them to survive the summer though the maple tree that used to be in the middle of the garden is long since gone. They do die down at end of season though so lend no color throughout the winter

15024. Magoseph - 5/18/2005 6:41:07 PM

We had those plants last year:

They were so ugly, i couldn't stand them, so I took them out--now the lillies of the Valley took over their place and we like that much better.

15025. thoughtful - 5/18/2005 7:06:36 PM

ferns?

15026. Magoseph - 5/18/2005 7:51:27 PM

Yes, they were ferns, but these were really ugly.

15027. jexster - 5/18/2005 9:27:18 PM

ACT-UP! FIGHT BACK!

I just learned that the New York Times has announced that beginning in September, they will charge 50 bucks a year for access. A few in England do this and if the practice spreads, it will shut down vital news media access for concerned, civicly engaged, citizens throughout this country, especially lower income individuals.

ACT UP today..contact the NyT Ombudsman

15028. judithathome - 5/18/2005 9:30:39 PM

Well, there'll be no living with Ace now...he was just highlighted on CNN's Blogsphere daily report. He asked to keep his real identity anonymous because of possible real life threats, possible employer problems, and the fact that, being a conservative, it might hinder his chances in liberal Hollywood when his screenplay is finished.

Kudos, Ace.

15029. jexster - 5/18/2005 9:40:34 PM

Ooops..misinformed..I will only lose Krugman (I love him but 50 bucks a year to get him?). I could give a rat's ass for what Tiny Tim Freidman or Brooks think, say or do.

Still, this practice needs to be nipped in the bud before it spreads like a nasty tumor


    NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--May 16, 2005--The New York Times announced today a new online offering called TimesSelect, which for a modest(!!!!) fee will provide exclusive access to Op-Ed and news columnists on NYTimes.com, easy and in-depth access to The Times's online archives, early access to select articles on the site, as well as other exciting features (better be VERY exciting for 50 bucks!)

email the The Public Editor

15030. jexster - 5/18/2005 9:51:05 PM

Boy what a sad comment on the state of journalism in AmeriKa


I love Ace

I want him

Now more than ever

Anyone have his home contact info?

15031. judithathome - 5/18/2005 10:23:50 PM

Heh...not even the little hottie Blogsphere (or whatever it's called) reporters on CNN could get that info out of him.

15032. thoughtful - 5/18/2005 11:33:01 PM

good for Ace! and they say cnn has such a liberal bias...to highlight a guy like ace? they're getting more rw all the time!

15033. arkymalarky - 5/19/2005 12:12:18 AM

One of their main news anchors is dating Rush Limbaugh.

I pretty much quit watching CNN.

15034. judithathome - 5/19/2005 12:42:49 AM

I may.

15035. Macnas - 5/19/2005 8:07:46 AM

Fair dues to Ace!

15036. Macnas - 5/19/2005 8:12:50 AM

I had to pass a picket this morning, unofficial and all that but still, made me squirm a bit.

If I can find out what it's all about I may not pass it tomorrow.

15037. alistairconnor - 5/19/2005 10:14:24 AM

That's distressing, did they not make it clear what the matter was?

15038. Macnas - 5/19/2005 10:46:57 AM

No, it was pure wildcat. I've only found out in the last half hour what the main issues are.

Without proper consultation, certain factions of manufacturing management decided to place video cameras in the working area, to monitor all aspects of the operations.

The unionised workers went to the managing director, to try and get some clarification and discussion going on what they see, and rightly in my view, as a gross imposition that is intrusive and demeaning.

The MD, a man just a few weeks in the job, decided to come the hard man act, and told the union reps to talk to HR if they had an issue, that he wasn't going to debate with them on it, and threw in a "who's running this place, you or me?", just for pig iron.

A meeting was called last night and it was voted to agreement to picket the plant this morning. It is very opportune as there are some high level senior managers and VP's due on site today, as well as a bunch of outside auditors. And there is a deadline for an important manufacturing target due tomorrow.

Couldn't have timed it better. There have been thorny issues in the past here, but it has never came to the point of strike. It goes to show what lack of debate, poor communication and lack of regard (if not outright contempt) will get you.

15039. alistairconnor - 5/19/2005 11:09:50 AM

Yeah just go talk to HR, you little cog.

The very name, "human resources", is demeaning in itself.

The guy ought to work out that it doesn't necessarily cost any more if he pretends to behave like a human being.

15040. Macnas - 5/19/2005 12:46:20 PM

While it is awkward, to say the least, I hope the new MD will learn from this dispute.

As you say, he could pretend to listen, at the very least. It is highly embarrassing for him for this to happen in front of his own boss, and his boss's boss.

I'm not unionised myself, which makes it a bit of a crisis of conscience for me. I agree with the essence of the dispute, but do not want to make my working life any harder than what it already is. The flip side of the coin is, the unions would not walk out in support for me if I got laid off because of supporting them.

Difficult times ahead.

15041. thoughtful - 5/19/2005 1:57:08 PM

clearly when an issue like that arises, it's a management failure. I've seen too many instances of mgmt insensitivity to workers' needs. Some of it unintentional, some of it is just callousness. A lot of it is incompetent insecure mgrs who always find it easier to blame the underlings for their problems rather than fix the systems and processes that lead to the bad result. The latter requires them to take responsibility and action for the things that are directly under their control.

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