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15666. thoughtful - 6/30/2005 8:47:06 PM

Denver...eh. Boulder much more interesting. Fortunately, they're not far apart.

And we sure enjoyed hiking the rockies last year...went in June and it was lovely.

Boulder heart of liberalism...few miles south in co. springs, home of the air force academy...heart of far rw radicals. Interesting contrast.

15667. arkymalarky - 6/30/2005 10:03:20 PM

You took the words right out of my mouth, Thoughtful. I don't care for Denver at all, but it's a small city and so close to such a lot of GREAT stuff, that I think your brother would love it, MsNo.

15668. Ms. No - 6/30/2005 10:25:58 PM

I'd always heard that Boulder was so far left as to be bordering on fascism.....of course, that may only be compared to the rest of the state.

15669. robertjayb - 6/30/2005 10:31:28 PM

WRT internet telephony: Slate has a feature comparing various services. Here.

15670. Ms. No - 6/30/2005 11:17:01 PM

Thanks!

15671. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 2:44:51 AM

Boulder's a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to (and couldn't afford to) live there. The small town of Nederland, however, is one of the few places I've been that I think I'd love to live in.

15672. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 2:45:49 AM

Nederland is just a few miles from Boulder, and from our cabin.

15673. jayackroyd - 7/1/2005 3:41:59 AM

I didn't like that review very much, Robert. Picking a phone with crappy quality and a complex pricing plan struck ahead of vonage made very little sense to me.

Giving 5 points for international to Galaxy voice pushed it to the front. While 212 seems to be key to this guy, I don't understand why he thinks it matters to other people (and I got a 212 number, actually). More valuable than the 212 would have been the SAME 212 number that I had been using as an office number before. A more useful question would have been whether you could keep your current number. A more useful review would have pointed out that retaining your number is an option for some services, and then evaluated how realistic this option is. For example, I bet verizon does a pretty good job of getting your old number transferred. But it would be nice to know whether it is true.

FWIW, I'm using vonage for normal outbound calls, on the 500 minute for 19.99 plan, with the computer calling option so that I can use my vonage phone on the road without bringing along the router, just a headset. That one also gives me a Maine phone number so that family members can call me toll free, and so I can have a 207 number for sentimental reasons and so I can fool Olympia Snowe's caller id. I retained the old voice line, which is used for incoming legacy calls and for 800 numbers.

I'm using skype for international calls, some skype to skype, some skype-out. I doubt I'll use all of my 10 euros of skype credit on the skype-out calls before it runs out next year, if I can avoid calling mobile numbers (spent 0.32 euros on 18 seconds of no-answers for two calls earlier this week.) Skype-out came in most handy when I was in Europe, before the vonage call by computer feature. I could call the US more cheaply that way than any other alternative I could see. Now I'd use vonage when in a European wifi cafe calling the US.


15674. jayackroyd - 7/1/2005 3:44:01 AM

Sorry, I skipped a half paragraph. His international calculation looked dodgy and unspecified to me. He should have said which 20 countries carried the first 60 minutes free. Links to international rates rather than his scoring system would also have been more useful. It could be that ATT sucks because it is anywhere from a half cent to five cents more expensive per minute.

15675. jexster - 7/1/2005 4:03:37 AM

Somehow I can't pay big bucks for a cat

Worth it!



looks like Sonny (aka Son of Thunder)..the most extroverted, intelligent breed there is...about 600 bucks..I got for 60 cause cattery lady had baby and needed to get rid of the House of Siamese


Boy's now goin on 17 and strong for an old man..Balinese are a hearty breed...

What I can't feature is paying 2000 for a dog

15676. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 4:39:30 AM

Beautiful cat. I can't feature that much, but I think Mazie was worth every penny I paid for her (not nearly $2000). And Mojo was worth every penny we paid for her (zero, except for the vet bills).

15677. arkymalarky - 7/1/2005 4:42:28 AM

Dammit. Message # 15363 and Message # 15367, respectively. And

15678. Ulgine Barrows - 7/1/2005 9:24:31 AM

oh jexster, what a wonderful purrbox!

What toys does that cat prefer? Does it go outside? Please tell me claws are intact!

15679. wabbit - 7/1/2005 12:19:45 PM

I agree with Jay, that internet telephony review wasn't very good. For myself, I'm most concerned about quality, then price, and features are at the bottom of my priority list. I've moved so many times that changing a phone number is no big deal to me, and with family scattered all over the place, I'm not married to an area code.

I haven't switched to Vonage (yet), but I use Skype regularly. When Spunky was in New Dehli and Mumbai a couple months ago, we used Skype and found we got far better connections than with the landline. We've also used SkypeOut and had no problems with either connections or call quality.

15680. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 5:34:03 PM

If anyone does plan to switch to vonage, someone should get the referral bonus (two months billing). www.vonage.com/raf describes the details.

15681. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 5:36:48 PM

15679

For me, quality, then features. I like the pick up your voice mail in an internet cafe feature, and getting free all the things the Bells charged 5 bucks a month apiece for (three way, forwarding, voicemail etc). Keeping my number would have been a big deal when I switched, because I'd had that number for years, and given it out to a lot of people.

I'm happy with Skype, although it's a little weird knowing that wabbit always knows when I'm online.

15682. wabbit - 7/2/2005 9:08:21 PM

LOL! You know, I actually thought about that and I removed you from my contacts ages ago. I now see only family contacts. Not that it matters much, since I frequently forget to start Skype anyway, and don't want it to autostart when I reboot.

15683. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 9:54:17 PM

I still have you in my contacts, and I autostart it, because I do want to know when one of my european contacts is online.

15684. wabbit - 7/2/2005 11:07:00 PM

I took you out because I felt like I was peering in my neighbor's window, you know? I also know you use Skype for business, so I'd never ring you without emailing first anyway. Or I figured I could always leave you a message here. And I hate bothering people; I've become a terrible correspondent in any form.

15685. jayackroyd - 7/2/2005 11:08:24 PM

Feel free to watch over my shoulder.

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