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16241. thoughtful - 8/17/2005 8:52:19 PM

we've always been very affectionate with our dogs too and have always had that affection returned in kind. But opening your heart to them sets yourself up for heartbreak as the odds are good that you will outlive them.

I think that's why my desire for pets is greater than my husband's...it's much harder on him as he is so sentimental and really gets hurt when we lose a pet. Me, I hurt, but I so enjoy the years with them that it's worth the loss.

But as far as I know, there is no evidence that being affectionate with a dog will make them less of a guard dog..in fact I think it's the opposite. If you look at the canine units, the handlers usually have the dogs with them at work and at home to develop the strongest of bonds. And they work and play together in a most affectionate way

16242. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 10:13:44 PM

Hey, Arky,


What can you tell me about the Ozarks?

16243. Magoseph - 8/17/2005 10:35:21 PM

Try this:

1. Grab a calculator. (you won't be able to do this one in your head)
2. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the area code)
3. Multiply by 80
4. Add 1
5. Multiply by 250
6. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number
7. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again.
8. Subtract 250
9. Divide number by 2

16244. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 10:47:31 PM

Hey No! Don't know why your post struck me funny. I'm filtering through my smartass off-the-cuff stuff about their family reunions and the complex network of dirt roads to consider what I actually do know about the Ozarks.

Are you interested in the civilized places (such as they are) or outdoors-type stuff? I do know that the best time to visit the Ozarks or the Ouachita Mountains (south and west of them) is coming up in a couple of months.

16245. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 10:54:46 PM

I hope Klaus is alright, Judith. Sounds like he must've really been feeling bad.

Bob was like Mac about indoor dogs until I reformed him (heh), but after Diva died he was as as interested in getting another little indoor/outdoor dog as I was (though Mazie's much less an outdoor dog than Diva was).

I think it's whatever suits your purposes at the time, but it's very important you get the right dog for your own family's needs, rather than what people are suggesting you should have. My grandparents never had any but yard dogs until they were robbed in Dallas (they were lucky they weren't killed) in their own home in broad daylight. The police suggested they go to the Humane Society and get a dog, and the dog they chose was a part of their family until the dog died. They really grieved over him, but never got another one (they moved out of Dallas not too long after they got him).

16246. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 10:55:36 PM

And I can attest to the fact that Klaus is a great house dog--polite and sweet.

16247. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 10:57:37 PM

I'm interested in the civilized places. What are the biggest towns? What's the climate like? I've been told that it's very similar to the Blue Ridge. What's the average elevation?

This is really ignorant, but I didn't even know there were any mountains there. I had no idea where the Ozarks were.

16248. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 11:08:09 PM

Eureka Springs and Mountain View are small touristy towns, and very nice. Springdale, Rogers, Bentonville, and Fayetteville are bigger. Fayetteville is a great town, and in fact a lot of Californians have been moving into that area in the last few years because of the atmosphere, scenery, climate, and housing costs. It is similar to the Blue Ridge, but probably warmer most of the year. It's not as hot and humid as where I live, but it's plenty hot in the summer. I don't know much about the elevations. Our highest mountain is Mount Magazine, which Bob says is under 3000 feet.

Someone thinking of moving there? If so, will they have time to come check it out before deciding?

16249. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 11:10:55 PM

Draw a line northeast to southwest through the state and the northwest half is mostly hills and low mountains. It's supposedly the oldest range in America.

16250. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 11:15:18 PM

Yes, it is the oldest that's why the elevations are low. I think it may be one of the oldest ranges in the world.

Somebody's mother mentioned it as an alternative to the Blue Ridge because it's closer to Dallas, but that Somebody is just thinking up possibilities at this point having had previous plans collapse into a flaming pile of crap.

16251. judithathome - 8/17/2005 11:18:16 PM

My aunt and uncle had a three story house designed by the architecture department of the university in Fayetteville and it was built into the side of a hill in Springdale. Coolest house...you pulled up to the front drive and thought WTH? This is a skimpy little one story house! But walk in the front door and wham...it's all open two stories down and the rooms are like decks.

Fantastic house....excellent acoustics!

16252. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 11:19:54 PM

Oooooookkkkkkaay.

Land there should be a great bargain. It's certainly worth a trip to look around, especially around November.

If Somebody is considering it, that Somebody should give me a call or drop a line and I could probably make a weekend to go that way and show Somebody around what little I know of the area. I'd love any excuse to go up there in the fall, anyway, and Bob's hard to pry from the recliner during the school year.

16253. arkymalarky - 8/17/2005 11:22:07 PM

That sounds fabulous, Judith. There are really a lot of hidden gems in the Ozarks, and it's been a well kept secret for a long time (besides the fact that no one wanted to live in the boonies away from strip malls and restaurants, no matter how beautiful). Northwest AR is booming now.

16254. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 11:29:00 PM

That's a definite, Arky. Nobody's coming anywhere near Arkansas without alerting you first!

16255. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 11:29:29 PM

Judith, you don't have any pictures do you? That sounds fabulous!

16256. judithathome - 8/17/2005 11:57:29 PM

I wish I did...maybe I can ask my uncle to send me some; I need to write him, anyhow.

16257. Ms. No - 8/17/2005 11:59:21 PM

Oh, I hope he does. I'd love to see it.

16258. judithathome - 8/18/2005 12:04:41 AM

Damn...all our work to get that new police chief, who was inept, fired, and the guy that was let go last year back in position of police chief...and I just get an email from him sent to the committee saying he is regretful but he feels with all the animosity directed at him by the "other side", he's not going to accept the job!

I can understand him feeling like he would be in a fishbowl but why the hell didn't he speak up while we were doing all that pavement pounding and dooor knocking and working our asses off on his benefit? Sorry for going off like this but it's very distressing...eh, I guess it's just politics.

16259. arkymalarky - 8/18/2005 12:13:41 AM

Another good bit of political insight I got from people I worked with over the last couple of years (which didn't make us feel any better--long story about a long fight that we lost due to a consistent and vocal supporter who turned on us in the last minute), was that the biggest disappointments in politics often come from your "allies."

16260. judithathome - 8/18/2005 12:19:20 AM

No kidding. This has me absolutely stunned. This guy is decent and had full knowledge of how we were risking everything for his ass.

The thing that chaps me is that the dirty side has won out and are chortling like drunken monkies over this. ARRRggghhhh!!!!

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