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17554. arkymalarky - 11/20/2005 2:03:46 AM

Good for y'all!

17555. Ulgine Barrows - 11/20/2005 9:19:30 AM

Back to the brouhaha about pets vs farm animals

17556. Ulgine Barrows - 11/20/2005 9:41:14 AM

Pelle..
'Perhaps this has to do with my farm background. The good farmer loves his animals and tries to give them as good a life as possible. But when the time comes to send them to slaughter he is not sentimental about it. It is part of the cycle.'

Yes, that is so correct.

17557. Magoseph - 11/20/2005 8:56:12 PM

Hi, Ulgine!

17558. Magoseph - 11/21/2005 5:28:12 PM

Did you watch Imus this morning, thoughtful? If you did, was Imus really upset that Charles didn't invite him for Thanksgiving, or were they pretending having a spat?

17559. judithathome - 11/21/2005 6:55:48 PM

Yesterday on our way to the movie, we made a wrong turn and ended up in a neighborhood of apartment buildings with a long street cutting through...it had a grassy median with trees and was very lovely. Imagine my surprise at seeing a dead cat in the median with a BUZZARD feasting on its carcus! In the middle of surburia...a huge buzzard!

17560. Jenerator - 11/21/2005 7:33:22 PM

Judith,

A year ago spring break, my husband and I went down to the Hill Country for a week long stay at the Guadalupe River Ranch (great place!) Anyway, we decided to take one of the many hikes the place offered and the one we chose went through the gorge. We had been hiking for about two hours when we hit a difficult place to climb.

It was beautiful and my husband who was about ten feet ahead of me suggested I pose by a striking rock feature. I climbed back up and then made my way toward the rock.

As I approached it, a violent shaking in the trees surrounding us started. Then a loud popping noise and a shrill bird cry.

I froze in panic.

Down swooped a HUGE Turkey vulture and it propped itself above me on a tree branch in attack formation --

Its head was pointed down at me like an arrow and its wings were spread out.

My husband yelled, "Jen, you must be near its nest. Run!"

I tell you, I jumped down an entire waterfall in seconds. I think I levitated!

Anyway, the vulture was po'd at me, but thankfully stayed in the tree.

They are hideous creatures!

17561. thoughtful - 11/21/2005 7:56:36 PM

Certainly not attractive up close


but very graceful in flight


they do play an important if unpleasant role in the ecological balance.

They were rarely seen in our area around the turn of the last century, yet have made a successful comeback. They are now regular features of our southern new england sky.

17562. Jenerator - 11/21/2005 8:35:01 PM

Hmmmmmmmm. If that's a turkey vulture, then I was given the wrong name by one of the rangers.

The vulture that wanted to hurt me was enormous and had a long neck with a white/grey beak that was curved. It's feather were black and it had a white collar.


???

Anyone see a vulture like this?

17563. Jenerator - 11/21/2005 8:41:57 PM

This is similar to what I saw, but it was a lot bigger.

17564. judithathome - 11/21/2005 9:18:07 PM

Mine looked like the one Thoughtful posted but its head wasn't as red...more mauve-ish.

Whatever, if I had seen one like you did, Jen, I'd have been freaked, too!

17565. thoughtful - 11/21/2005 9:55:15 PM

The immature ones have lighter-colored heads:


They get redder as they age.

It could also have been a different type of vulture.

17566. judithathome - 11/21/2005 9:56:30 PM

Well, this one wasn't humongous so maybe he was young. And off course.

17567. Jenerator - 11/21/2005 10:50:58 PM

Well, I am going to be gone until after Thanksgiving. I hope all of you have a lovely holiday!

Marshame, husband and the kids and I are going to a restaurant to eat the turkey. None of us want to cook or clean.

;-)

P.s. Judith, I am sorry for being mean to you in DR.

17568. thoughtful - 11/21/2005 11:00:03 PM

Happy tgiving day jen.

17569. Magoseph - 11/21/2005 11:05:48 PM

Thoughtful, did you see my question post 17588?

17570. judithathome - 11/21/2005 11:08:39 PM

Judith, I am sorry for being mean to you in DR.

Jen, no need to be sorry...we both feel strongly about certain things and speak our minds. That is a good thing and it's understandable that sometimes we'll clash.

17571. thoughtful - 11/22/2005 12:05:14 AM

sorry mags...i was listening to it, but didn't see it. I had the sense that they were pulling a fast one on him just to get under his skin...I mean they started saying that mary matalin was invited but imus was not and that makes no sense....so i think they were pulling a fast one on him.

17572. arkymalarky - 11/22/2005 1:22:42 AM

The picture Thoughtful posted looks like the ones around here. They're everywhere, but rarely do they get hit by cars, amazingly. They say if you almost hit them, they'll barf on your windshield--which I can well imagine, considering their diet, but have never experienced firsthand, thank goodness.

17573. robertjayb - 11/22/2005 2:00:23 AM

They say if you almost hit them, they'll barf on your windshield---

I can attest to that. Very Unpleasant.

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